Shedda by a country mile.They have both had great careers, in a draft who would you select first between Shed and Lids, it's Sheda for me.
I would have never thought i'd say yes to a better indigenous player than Maurice, but i agree it's the Shed for me.So has Sheds now surpassed Maurice as our greatest Indigenous player? I think he has.
So has Sheds now surpassed Maurice as our greatest Indigenous player? I think he has.
So, does this mean that you have Jack ahead of Richo?No contest.
Edwards has played in 2 Premiership teams and featured in the best 6 players for most final games between 2017/19.
That is what history will reflect and supporters will remember.
Dunno. Not a big fan of trying to claim one player surpasses another from a different era. Will say that since we've figured out how to play Shedda's game, he's certainly lifted his performance from good / very good to excellent. Couple more seasons of the way he's playing n he'll sit comfortably alongside any of the indigenous players from any era.So has Sheds now surpassed Maurice as our greatest Indigenous player? I think he has.
2013 final he had 24 possessions, 2014 he had 29 and 2015 he had 17. Shedda had 12, 11 and 8 in the corresponding games. We also forget that our winning record with Lids playing was superior to when he didn’t and used to be commented on. Post Richo and before Dusty’s emergence Lids was our best player, that he didn’t stand up in big games is a myth that has been debunked on this site quite a few times.
That being said Shedda has since played very well in finals and is of course a dual premiership player but we shouldn’t rewrite history
I absolutely love shedda and have been a defender of his over the years but a very quick check of stats shows that Lids 3 times had more than 35 possessions and kicked 4 or more goals, once he had 36 and 5 goals. That’s elite in any language at any time.Without drawing on stats, I can't ever remember seeing Lids play a game as breathtaking as Sheds best.
Sheds will be remembered by the people who really understand the game, as one of the all-time greats of not just Richmond, but the game.
Its not denigrating Lids, his skill set of speed and power and class is a pretty standard champion midfielders skill set.
Sheds has a skill set that is without peer.
He had a lot of impact, especially the first two. Played almost a loan hand in our midfield against Port Adelaide. He was as good as any player on our list in those 3 finals including many who played big parts in the premierships since.I cannot recall any of those games him being great that's my point.Yeah he had 24 29 and 17 possies,but how much impact did he have on those games.Each to there own for me he went missing in games.
Agree about Shed being a genuine/better midfielder.lids was very unlucky in that he was playing in a crap team with poor leadership.
If lids was coming through now, he would have been even better.
Having said all that edwards is something that lids never was, a genuine midfielder
If some of the stuff written on here is to be believed then maybe he was in fact party to the poor leadership. Dunno really, as he seems to still be pretty popular with his former teammates.lids was very unlucky in that he was playing in a crap team with poor leadership.
Just had a look at Sheda and Lids stats, surprised to see that Sheda has more clearance from 20 less games than Lids, 667
Agree about Shed being a genuine/better midfielder.
I was looking at some stats the other day and was surprised that Shed has more clearance from less games than Lids.
I suppose an allowance should be made for Lids as he has missed a lot of footy the last few years and hasn't played much midfield in that time as well, but it surprised me because Shed has played a fair bit as a small forward.
more clearances in less games eh
That's interesting because there is no way Edwards has played as many midfield minutes as Lids over his career.
The biggest difference between them is that Lids could be tagged out of the game as a midfielder, Edwards on the other hand can't be stopped when he is on.