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U.S Presidential Election

mrposhman

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Yes agreed, they have a lot to answer for.

Some of the information they get out of your phone is disturbing. I'm certain that your phone is always listening, the fact that you can just discuss something and then next time you are on facebook, what you've discussed is right there in the paid marketing. No need to have searched online, it just appears there.

This is one reason the argument that people give to not taking the Covid vaccine is because the governments want to microchip people. I always ask the same people, do you own a mobile phone? There is no need for a microchip when you walk around with a mobile phone.
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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yes, Lee is outnumbered and he does a good job of trying to defend Trump while at the same time pretending he really doesn't care.
As explained more than enough times, I'm less a Trump supporter than an opponent of the dehumanising elitist left. It really is an evil thing.
 
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AngryAnt

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As explained more than enough times, I'm less a Trump supporter than an opponent of the dehumanising elitist left. It really is an evil thing.
Sure bro, that's why Trump is the "leader the free world needs" and is "making the world a better place".

You love him and we all know it.
 
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tigerdell

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Yeah some are, most notably Pence and some other Republicans.

Still 74 odd million people voted for him. That’s 74 million people voted for a man who was panned throughout his tenure by most mainstream media. That’s a lot of people not listening. I doubt they have changed their minds.
Just a point on the media - Trump had a lot of support from mainstream media.

Fox news is mainstream. Its cable as is CNN, but it is accessible for the majority in the USA.
New york post and many other papers also are /were pro trump.
I,d hazard a guess that many local tv in mid west and southern states were pro trump at times.

The idea that Trump had no mainstream support was promoted by trump himself, in a classic excuse for any failure
 
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tigerdell

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Can I ask what TDS is please...?
Trump derangement syndrome i think.
Its a new way to abuse people by suggesting that they are mad because they are so mad at trump.

It might better belong in the playground than here on PRE
 
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Brodders17

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Trump derangement syndrome i think.
Its a new way to abuse people by suggesting that they are mad because they are so mad at trump.

It might better belong in the playground than here on PRE
it basically a term Trump supporters use to bag those who point out Trump's long list of faliures. by trying to paint those who can see through Trump's lies as having a 'mental illness' they hope to discredit that long list of failures.
they cant argue the facts, unless you adhere to "alternative facts" so they attack the person.
 
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AngryAnt

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TDS - a term used by ardent Trump fans who can't accept criticism of the Dear Leader, the savior of the free world, leading the world to a better place. Typically these are people who want o overlook Trump's corrupt behaviour and are prepared to forgive him for 400K dead American citizens from Covid19 while on his watch.

They often say things like "if it wasn't for the virus he would have been the best President ever".
 

AngryAnt

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Boom - he's been impeached in the House for the second time in his term with ten republicans voting to impeach. First time in history.

Here are the ten House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump on the charge of incitement of insurrection:
  • John Katko of New York.
  • Liz Cheney of Wyoming.
  • Adam Kinzinger of Illinois.
  • Fred Upton of Michigan.
  • Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington state.
  • Dan Newhouse of Washington state.
  • Peter Meijer of Michigan.
  • Tom Rice of South Carolina.
  • Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio.
  • David Valadao of California.

The Republicans’ votes made this the most bipartisan presidential impeachment in history. In comparison, five Democrats voted to impeach Bill Clinton in 1998.foo_017.png
They finally decided to put some security in at Capitol Hill for this one.

 
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AngryAnt

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Apparently GOP members have been getting death threats if they vote to impeach. Looks like there won't be enough support in the Senate.

Congratulations Donny, this is the America that you have remade in your own image.
 

Sintiger

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BLM were violent riots where property was damaged people died and which forced the president to shelter in a bunker from memory.

There were nearly 8000 events, marches and demonstrations linked to the Black Lives Matter too movement. An independent US monitoring service has stated that 93% of them were totally peaceful. Of course the vast majority of us who support what it stands for hated any violence and saw it as counter productive to the cause which we see clearly from the way that violence is being used to diminish the cause.
This is nothing close to what happened at the Capitol building. That was an insurrection, a use of violence to try and stop the process of the installation of a democratically elected government.
 
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Djevv

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Thats because Trump has for a long time been brainwashing his diehards to ignore any media that doesn't agree with him, hence Fake News. This has filtered down to the point where to "do their own research" they read one sided discussions on conspiracy theorist websites and far right propaganda websites along with QAnon. Whilst I don't like Trump (despite the fact that I'm a centre right voter) but what you can say about him, is either he or someone in his team have absolutely nailed his marketing to his diehards.

Sorry just referring back to last week and I know you don't like the word coup, but a question you didn't answer.

Trump was bagging Mike Pence a lot in his speech, he was riling his supporters up and a lot of what he said about Pence was that if he didn't block the final vote, then he is as bad as the others. The crowd in his speech were then chanting "hang Mike Pence", which they again did whilst they surrounded the capitol building and erecting a hangsman noose. What do you think would have happened had they managed to get their hands on Pence?? Do you think they would have murdered Pence and if so would you blame Trump for that?

Tough question. I don’t think anyone would have been harmed. Shouting slogans is one thing but murdering people is entirely another. Still there were some hard-heads in that crowd, people were scared. I think given what Trump said about Pence I would hold him responsible. Pence has every right to be absolutely livid with Trump.
 
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Djevv

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The Black Lives Matter too movement inspired nearly 8000 different events, marches and demonstrations not just in the USA but all over the world. The vast majority were 100% peaceful l

there were nearly 8000 events, marches and demonstrations linked to the Black Lives Matter too movement. An independent US monitoring service has stated that 93% of them were totally peaceful. Of course the vast majority of us who support what it stands for hated any violence and saw it as counter productive to the cause which we see clearly from the way that violence is being used to diminish the cause.
This is nothing close to what happened at the Capitol building. That was an insurrection, a use of violence to try and stop the process of the installation of a democratically elected government.

Sorry but 7% violent is a lot. I posted a good article a few pages back. BLM protests might have been mostly peaceful but I would say Trumps rally was mostly peaceful. Unfortunately 7% rushed the Capitol building.
 
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Djevv

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Just a point on the media - Trump had a lot of support from mainstream media.

Fox news is mainstream. Its cable as is CNN, but it is accessible for the majority in the USA.
New york post and many other papers also are /were pro trump.
I,d hazard a guess that many local tv in mid west and southern states were pro trump at times.

The idea that Trump had no mainstream support was promoted by trump himself, in a classic excuse for any failure

OK everyone knows that Murdoch media supports a more conservative POV. But I’m talking about the more respectable publications: which is why I said ‘most’.

They are all united against Trump and pursue a progressive agenda. It’s been this way for years and any conservatives have spotted the bias. Trump just managed to label it in the way that only he can: fake news.
 
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