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The Greater Tiger? Rance or Grimes

Who is the greater tiger?


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Brodders17

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Absolutely.

As pure players there is no comparison, it's Dustin Martin v Dion Prestia.

Peak Rance was in the discussion of best defender of all time. Absolute top-shelf, top 1% of players to have played the game in his position. Dustin Martin.

Grimes is hugely talented, consistent, dependable and reliable. He is a great, great player. Right on the next level down from the very best of the best. Dion Prestia.
Yep. While i would probably rate Grimes slightly above Prestia it is a good analogy.
Rance is a league wide all time great. His shortened career probably costs hima spot in the AFL/VFL team of all time, but he is is close.
Grimes is a star but a couple of levels below Rance.
 
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Dont Argue

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Im enjoying the peaceful array of perspectives on this thread.

Like a few pointed out, rance baked the fluffiest, tastiest football sponge ever, in conjunction with grimes and dave (and more). He was certainly head chef

But Then left, and grimesy slathered 2 thick layers of passionfruit icing on the footy sponge.

I agree theres some degree of bitterness at rances sudden departure and some recency bias, but that stuff is real in grading greatness.

I reckon its an interesting debate and the voting is reflecting that.

I expect dylan will end up with 5 times as many flags as Alex and it still puzzles me why
Baker humbly requests that you direct all cake, bread and dessert analogies towards him.
The bigger boys can handle mains
 
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eZyT

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Baker humbly requests that you direct all cake, bread and dessert analogies towards him.
The bigger boys can handle mains

as head chef, Rance seared the backline sirloin to medium rare perfection,

but Grimes has subsequently added the choice of a classic pepper cream sauce or a ramekin of vibrant chimichurri?

while Baker quietly perfects the mini-Yorkshire puddings that need to be tethered to the plate, so as not to float away?

Dave and Nathan smash the potatoes?

shorty and bachar are co-semilliers?

Nick cracks bespoke peppercorns on request?

Notorius sits in the corner, drinking espresso, with a crisp white tea-towel over his shoulder, a slim Havana smouldering in a saucer.
 
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Dont Argue

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as head chef, Rance seared the backline sirloin to medium rare perfection,

but Grimes has subsequently added the choice of a classic pepper cream sauce or a ramekin of vibrant chimichurri?

while Baker quietly perfects the mini-Yorkshire puddings that need to be tethered to the plate, so as not to float away?

Dave and Nathan smash the potatoes?

shorty and bachar are co-semilliers?

Nick cracks bespoke peppercorns on request?

Notorius sits in the corner, drinking espresso, with a crisp white tea-towel over his shoulder, a slim Havana smouldering in a saucer.
Houli as sommelier?
That’s like asking Stevie Wonder to choose the colours to paint your house
Leave him in charge of seafood. He’s handy with a rod.
 
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MD Jazz

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I picked Grimes for his ability to play talls and smalls.
Name a genuine tall he has beat?

He’s not a key position back. Super player, tough as teaK and he’s a marvellous stopper, interceptor and disruptor - Rance was that and more.
 
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Dyer'ere

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I've seen Chris Grant get Wayne Carey by the hair. As a habit. Alistair Lynch dominate from CHB in loser teams. I was a yard away from a bleeding Francis Bourke as he paced to the boundary, too lame to trot, but ahead of yet another vanquished tall opponent. Smalls were fodder.

Yeah, Fletcher. Scarlett. Awesome.

Alex Rance is the best defender I've seen. By far the most dominant. Dominant of opponent and then area. Wow.

Players of the monumental talent quotient of Chris Grant, or a young and fit Alistair Lynch, are rarely used in the back line (they have to play forward) but Alex Rance was. And he dominated. A great champion. Unforgettable.
 
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zippadeee

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Name a genuine tall he has beat?

He’s not a key position back. Super player, tough as teaK and he’s a marvellous stopper, interceptor and disruptor - Rance was that and more.
Name one tall that Rance stopped?
Waite would bend him over.
Rance was shitt one on one.
He was good at the Mitch McGovern stuff.
He wasnt a Francis Bourke who could and would beat their opponent.
 

tigerman

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Name a genuine tall he has beat?

He’s not a key position back. Super player, tough as teaK and he’s a marvellous stopper, interceptor and disrupt
Who has Astbury been playing on all these years?
I bet Rance wished Astbury was playing the day Cloke ragdolled him, kicked 7, and taunted him.
Rance and now Grimes owe Astbury a lot for allowing them to play the roll they do.
 
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daniel30

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I wouldn't rate Rance the best ever that's a stretch Glen Jakovich was a gun ,Chris Langford even Leppa had him covered my opinion.
 
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daniel30

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Name one tall that Rance stopped?
Waite would bend him over.
Rance was shitt one on one.
He was good at the Mitch McGovern stuff.
He wasnt a Francis Bourke who could and would beat their opponent.

Spot on one on one he struggled big time short memory just as well we had Grimes and Dave they allowed him to do his stuff.
 
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Sintiger

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Name one tall that Rance stopped?
Waite would bend him over.
Rance was shitt one on one.
He was good at the Mitch McGovern stuff.
He wasnt a Francis Bourke who could and would beat their opponent.
Zips this is nonsense. There is not a key back in the history of Australian football who hasn’t had times when he was beaten by an opponent and Alex Rance was no different.
He was a great one on one player who played on some great one on one forwards and more often than not beat them and at the same time played an attacking game.
 
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Coburgtiger

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Name one tall that Rance stopped?
Waite would bend him over.
Rance was shitt one on one.
He was good at the Mitch McGovern stuff.
He wasnt a Francis Bourke who could and would beat their opponent.
Franklin.


And every other key forward in the league.

Just because you vomit this garbage constantly doesn't make it true.
 
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zippadeee

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Franklin.


And every other key forward in the league.

Just because you vomit this garbage constantly doesn't make it true.

Franklin still averaged over 3 goals on him.
Relax.
Jenkins got offered 700k a year on the back of slapping Rance.
Cox, Waite, Hogan, Cloke all pantsed Rance.
The question is who is better.
Grimes easily
 

zippadeee

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Franklin.


And every other key forward in the league.

Just because you vomit this garbage constantly doesn't make it true.

Everyone thought when he retired it would affect us. NOT me..didn't care. He lost us the 2018 Premiership because he dropped his bundle playing on fat guts Degoey.

Without him we have won 2 flags by 21 goals.
Astbury Broad Grimes Baker Houli Short are the best 6 in the comp.
 

AngryAnt

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Franklin still averaged over 3 goals on him.
Relax.
Jenkins got offered 700k a year on the back of slapping Rance.
Cox, Waite, Hogan, Cloke all pantsed Rance.
The question is who is better.
Grimes easily

Following your dud/gun paradigm with nothing in between I guess Grimes is a gun and Rance is a dud?
 
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