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How long before the game is call off?

LeeToRainesToRoach

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More than the empty grounds in Melb this weekend?
Probably closer to the 100% loss in Melbourne than the profit from a ~30K crowd in Adelaide.

I'm OK with not gifting Adelaide a home ground advantage, but I wonder if the club would've preferred the gate takings and backed the team to get over the line?
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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I've always wondered why they continue to stick with 14 days. I'd like to see an extra half week added (17 or 18 days). I believe Hong Kong does 21 days.
But if he's picked up the virus on literally his last day at the quarantine hotel, that possibility still exists whether it's day 14 or day 21. I've suggested elsewhere that maybe they should do 7 days' home quarantine on top of the 14 at the hotel.
 

AngryAnt

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Probably closer to the 100% loss in Melbourne than the profit from a ~30K crowd in Adelaide.

I'm OK with not gifting Adelaide a home ground advantage, but I wonder if the club would've preferred the gate takings and backed the team to get over the line?

That decision had nothing to do with the AFL. The border to SA is closed to Victorians and any essential travellers to SA have to quarantine for 14 days. The game cannot be played in Adelaide and that's a state govt. decision, not the AFL's.
 

leon

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Why don't Fairfax have a paper in Qld? And would have thought ABC would get plenty of listeners and viewers in the most decentralised state in the nation.
Newspapers are battling to make a profit now anywhere in the Internet age. ABC, yes, but still limited audience and not pushing agendas like privately owned media can/does.
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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That decision had nothing to do with the AFL. The border to SA is closed to Victorians and any essential travellers to SA have to quarantine for 14 days. The game cannot be played in Adelaide and that's a state govt. decision, not the AFL's.
Adelaide was the venue being mooted on Wednesday. The restrictions came into effect at 6pm that day. They didn't move quickly enough.
 

AngryAnt

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Adelaide was the venue being mooted on Wednesday. The restrictions came into effect at 6pm that day. They didn't move quickly enough.

Ahahah that's great. You think if the AFL had pre-emptively announced Adelaide Oval as the venue, the SA government would have said "yeah OK sure guys, our rules don't apply to you because you called dibs first"? What next, you can fly into SA whenever you want because you said "Barley" before the SA Premier did?

I mean sure blame the AFL for some crappy decisions but this is absurd.
 

22nd Man

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Probably closer to the 100% loss in Melbourne than the profit from a ~30K crowd in Adelaide.

I'm OK with not gifting Adelaide a home ground advantage, but I wonder if the club would've preferred the gate takings and backed the team to get over the line?
The anywhere anytime mantra has been benched.
 

TigerMasochist

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We can't stay closed forever, we need to vaccinate faster and everyone needs to be vaccinated. Get vaccinated as soon as you can.
Getting vaccinated doesn't actually stop you from either getting or transmitting coroner cooties.
It simply means that you should have enough antibodies in your system that the cooties might not make you as crook as not being vaccinated.
Great help for the old, frail n those already with ongoing health issues. Pretty irrelevant for the young fit n normally healthy.
 
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TigerMasochist

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Wow, Daniel! So you are actually impressed and fooled by old Aunty Glad? Seriously? So sad for you.

Maybe you'd be better off fearing for what corruption she is allowing, or is the inept front-person for, in NSW.

Only the incredibly gullible.
Not a chance in hell she'd be any more corrupt than Dan the Man n his entourage of Sgt *smile*'s n Yes Ministers here in Victoria. There's not a pollie anywhere I'd normally waste valuable urine on if they were on fire in the street, but at least Auntie Gladys n her mob have managed to keep N.S.W. open and operating to a reasonable capacity while managing the Coroner cooties and also letting a whole lot less people die from it.
 
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hutstar

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They're probably accumulating evidence as to how likely the vaccinated are to unknowingly transmit the virus. It's still not known as far as I'm aware.
Right - it could be I'm a bit bitter about the fact that if Australia was doing a semi-decent job of vaccine rollout it would be irrelevant! But you're right that now, with vaccine rates so low at home, it wouldn't be safe. But this is the thing - it will never be safe. The only thing that matters is vaccine rollout and I don't understand why there isn't outrage over how badly it's going. Governments have fallen for much less.

At some point the borders must open. Covid will be rife in Australia like it is elsewhere and those not vaccinated will be in danger. It's a bugger for those that can't vaccinate for health reasons, and it will be a cull of the stupid for anti-vaxxers. It's inevitable and unavoidable, so get on with it.
 
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TigerMasochist

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Simply moronic response. I think the guy blinded by bias is the one who has got NOTHING to argue when challenged. The post I rightfully attacked is incredibly ignorant and offensive to our VicGov contact tracers putting in enormous hours of effort to try and protect our community, including the likes of you.
As if you are not projecting your LP politics! Since I'm an avowed opponent of communism, it's just further stupidity to attempt to get mileage from the Comrade moniker. It's only used by communists to each other ... meaning you must be one or want to be. ;)
Doubt anyone's attacking the people actually trying to do the contact tracing. All the problems n issues stem from the mob of imbeciles n *smile* ant arse clowns that are running the circus.
 
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hutstar

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Getting vaccinated doesn't actually stop you from either getting or transmitting coroner cooties.
It simply means that you should have enough antibodies in your system that the cooties might not make you as crook as not being vaccinated.
Great help for the old, frail n those already with ongoing health issues. Pretty irrelevant for the young fit n normally healthy.
Not quite. The vaccine reduces your ability to transmit substantially, but yeah, eventually someone unable to take the vaccine will probably get the virus. Also, to suggest only the old and frail are at substantial risk isn't accurate. If you're over 40, the threat is real, much higher than flu. Keeping Australia permanently isolated from the rest of the world however isn't really a viable solution. So Angry Ant is right - Vaccinate then resume normality. Yes, there will be victims, but what's the alternative?
 
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AngryAnt

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Getting vaccinated doesn't actually stop you from either getting or transmitting coroner cooties.
It simply means that you should have enough antibodies in your system that the cooties might not make you as crook as not being vaccinated.
Great help for the old, frail n those already with ongoing health issues. Pretty irrelevant for the young fit n normally healthy.
Wrong, herd immunity also protects the elderly and those with co-morbidities, so it's absolutely relevant for young and healthy people as well. Yes it is possible to both catch and transmit covid while vaccinated but the R number falls rapidly towards zero as a population moves towards herd immunity.

And as that number falls, guess what... No need for lockdowns and other restrictions. As Merlino said, if the feds had met their vaccination targets, we may not be having this lockdown now.

But according to some of you vaccinations are low priority.

Young and healthy people also like having jobs, and higher vaccination rates mean more jobs. It also means you can open up those industries that are currently closed like tourism and hospitality. Vaccination rates have a very real effect on the economy. Why do you think the US and the UK are going so hard on it? Ask anyone who works in tourism.

Will post some links on this tomorrow.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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Right - it could be I'm a bit bitter about the fact that if Australia was doing a semi-decent job of vaccine rollout it would be irrelevant! But you're right that now, with vaccine rates so low at home, it wouldn't be safe. But this is the thing - it will never be safe. The only thing that matters is vaccine rollout and I don't understand why there isn't outrage over how badly it's going. Governments have fallen for much less.

At some point the borders must open. Covid will be rife in Australia like it is elsewhere and those not vaccinated will be in danger. It's a bugger for those that can't vaccinate for health reasons, and it will be a cull of the stupid for anti-vaxxers. It's inevitable and unavoidable, so get on with it.
The government has declared it intends to open in mid-2022, so there’s certainly not a race to get vaccinated.

There are travel arrangements with New Zealand and the government has looked at making similar deals with countries with low incidence. Maybe it’s expecting it’ll be another 12 months before the rest of the world is relatively safe to let in.
 

AngryAnt

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We don’t want to let carriers in, vaccination or no vaccination. We need the rest of the world to beat it down.


That's the spirit. Let's sit back and wait for the rest of the world to solve the problem for us. The developing countries should be fully vaxxed in 3-4 years, we can wait.
 

tigerjoe

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What a complete and utter bunch of clowns run the Peoples Republic of Danistan.

How anyone could reelect these criminals last time just goes to show the IQ of alot of people in this state.

4 lockdowns, 95% of all covid deaths, the education of hundreds of thousands in tatters, businesses destroyed, enormous debt, the mental destruction of so many, and none of the losers in power will take any responsibility.....but think its a good ides to put a drug injecting room right in the middle of a battered and destroyed city!

HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME YOU UTTER F...WITS!!!!!!

You have utterly destroyed what was once a great city.
 
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Baloo

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That reminds me, haven't seen Tiger Harley around for a while now