Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

[DavidSSS]

When you dominate play, you get more frees. Pretty simple.

Aah, ok, must have missed that over the last 4 years.

DS

 

[tigerlove]

I used to be a firm believer in this basic princible. But after the ladt 4 years of us dominating play and getting screwed, I no longer do. And it ain't my one-eyedness, its hard data.

On yesterday, I agree. Umps did a couple of shockers, but my previous point notwithstanding, if you have momentum, the umps go with it.

Obviously a furphy (nice drop). Top 6 for frees per opposition this year are Bulldogs (near top every year), Crows, Demons, Blues, Cats, Kangas. Of course Tigers are last by a long way. Port, Swans, Fremantle, Brisbane
near the bottom too.

 

[tigersnake]

a big issue in the AFL (the Australian Football League- the AFL is not the game itself despite what it thinks) is that AFL execs want (higher scoring) the opposite of what coaches want (lower scores against). so the AFL brings in small rule changes, that affect all levels of Australian Rules Football, not just the AFL, but the coaches then just adjust, so the end result is nothing.

If they want to bring substantial change to the way Aussie Rules is played they will need to bring in substantial rule changes, but they know they cant so they keep tinkering, which ultimately does little but annoy (or worse) the fans.

Australian Rules Football needs a separate rules committee, and governing body, that looks after the game as a whole.

Separation of powers, spot on, agree 100%. But there is no political mechanism to make it happen that I can see. The only possibilities a fan revolt/ boycott, or a hardline stance by an alliance of 4 to 8 of the most powerful clubs. Can't see either happening.

 

[taztiger4]

When you dominate play, you get more frees. Pretty simple.

Richmond screwed Richmond today. No one else.

2017 Played 25 Won 18 - Free kicks minus 60
2018 Played 24 Won 19 - Free kicks minus 122
2019 Played 25 Won 19 - Free kicks minus 31
2020 Played 21 Won 15 & drew 1 - Free kicks minus 78
2021 Played 16 Won 7 - Free kicks minus 77

Total
Played 112 Won 78 Free Kicks MINUS 368

Not sure I am agreeing with you dear Scoop

edit, out of the 112 games we have won the free kick count 32 times (even twice)

 

[Harry]

the down the field free and goal after sidebottom kicked it and ran into one of our players was ridiculous.

 

[tommystigers]

*Round 17 Updated* Umpire Watch 2021 - End the Free Kick Farce

Carlton 25 Richmond 15 Foot Fleer Mollison
Hawthorn 22 Richmond 25 Fisher Brown Gavine
Sydney 25 Richmond 15 Power Dalgleish Johanson
Port 22 Richmond 12 Rosebury Deboy Hosking
St Kilda 23 Richmond 13 Stevic Gavine Fleer
Melbourne 24 Richmond 17 Stephens Dalgleish Williamson
Bulldogs 17 Richmond 21 Fisher Fleer Glouftsis
Geelong 21 Richmond 11 Haussen Stephens Williamson
GWS 19 Richmond 12 Foot Hosking Deboy
Brisbane 28 Richmond 16 Donlon Nicholls Howorth
Adelaide 12 Richmond 19 Haussen Hosking Toner
Essendon 12 Richmond 17 Margetts Dalgleish Johanson
West Coast 25 Richmond 15 Haussen Rosebury Dore
St Kilda 18 Richmond 23 Stevic Deboy Fleer
Gold Coast 29 Richmond 22 Donlon Howorth Whetton
Collingwood 24 Richmond 16 Foot Stevic Howorth

Umpire Tallies - Including RFC Games Total
3 Howorth - 27
3 Foot -25
2 Rosebury -20
2 Donlon -19
2 Stephens -17
2 Williamson -17
3 Haussen -13
3 Stevic -13
3 Deboy -12
3 Dalgeish -12
1 Nicholls -12
4 Fleer -11
3 Hosking -10
1 Dore -10
1 Mollison -10
1 Power -10
1 Whetton -7
2 Gavine -7
2 Johanson -5
1 Brown +3
1 Glouftsis +4
1 Margetts +5
1 Toner +7
2 Fisher +7

Howorth has put in another solid performance in a back to back appearance and leads the baying pack followed closely by Foot.
The Richmond jugular has been severed and the smell of blood has all but a compassionate five in a frenzy.
Glouftsis, Margetts, and Toner have rung into the club to offer a pack of band-aids to stem the flow but the AFL has blocked the call.

 

[Harry]

#bringbackeleni

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Disagree. I think the umpires were very influential in giving Pies the run on to help them win the game. At one stage frees were 7 a piece. Pies received 17 of the next 24 frees plus 2 x 50s. In our heyday it wouldn't have demoralised us. As a weaker younger team it has more influence. The umpiring inconsistencies against Tigers particularly on 50-50 decisions does my head in.

Our young blokes should be used to it, because the umpires in the VFL screw us over as well.

 

[eddazol]

*Round 17 Updated* Umpire Watch 2021 - End the Free Kick Farce

Carlton 25 Richmond 15 Foot Fleer Mollison
Hawthorn 22 Richmond 25 Fisher Brown Gavine
Sydney 25 Richmond 15 Power Dalgleish Johanson
Port 22 Richmond 12 Rosebury Deboy Hosking
St Kilda 23 Richmond 13 Stevic Gavine Fleer
Melbourne 24 Richmond 17 Stephens Dalgleish Williamson
Bulldogs 17 Richmond 21 Fisher Fleer Glouftsis
Geelong 21 Richmond 11 Haussen Stephens Williamson
GWS 19 Richmond 12 Foot Hosking Deboy
Brisbane 28 Richmond 16 Donlon Nicholls Howorth
Adelaide 12 Richmond 19 Haussen Hosking Toner
Essendon 12 Richmond 17 Margetts Dalgleish Johanson
West Coast 25 Richmond 15 Haussen Rosebury Dore
St Kilda 18 Richmond 23 Stevic Deboy Fleer
Gold Coast 29 Richmond 22 Donlon Howorth Whetton
Collingwood 24 Richmond 16 Foot Stevic Howorth

Umpire Tallies - Including RFC Games Total
3 Howorth - 27
3 Foot -25
2 Rosebury -20
2 Donlon -19
2 Stephens -17
2 Williamson -17
3 Haussen -13
3 Stevic -13
3 Deboy -12
3 Dalgeish -12
1 Nicholls -12
4 Fleer -11
3 Hosking -10
1 Dore -10
1 Mollison -10
1 Power -10
1 Whetton -7
2 Gavine -7
2 Johanson -5
1 Brown +3
1 Glouftsis +4
1 Margetts +5
1 Toner +7
2 Fisher +7

Howorth has put in another solid performance in a back to back appearance and leads the baying pack followed closely by Foot.
The Richmond jugular has been severed and the smell of blood has all but a compassionate five in a frenzy.
Glouftsis, Margetts, and Toner have rung into the club to offer a pack of band-aids to stem the flow but the AFL has blocked the call.

Umpire 17. Terrible.

 

[tommystigers]

Umpire 17. Terrible.

That’s Howorth Ed. It’s Why he is top of the table.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

That’s Howorth Ed. It’s Why he is top of the table.

He’s only umpired 35 games, obviously training them early to screw us at every opportunity.

 

[snags]

a big issue in the AFL (the Australian Football League- the AFL is not the game itself despite what it thinks) is that AFL execs want (higher scoring) the opposite of what coaches want (lower scores against). so the AFL brings in small rule changes, that affect all levels of Australian Rules Football, not just the AFL, but the coaches then just adjust, so the end result is nothing.

If they want to bring substantial change to the way Aussie Rules is played they will need to bring in substantial rule changes, but they know they cant so they keep tinkering, which ultimately does little but annoy (or worse) the fans.

Australian Rules Football needs a separate rules committee, and governing body, that looks after the game as a whole.

Or incentivise the coaches. *smile* off all these knee jerk rule changes and give a bonus premiership point for scores over 100.

 

[leon]

I used to be a firm believer in this basic princible. But after the ladt 4 years of us dominating play and getting screwed, I no longer do. And it ain't my one-eyedness, its hard data.

On yesterday, I agree. Umps did a couple of shockers, but my previous point notwithstanding, if you have momentum, the umps go with it.

So you get more frees if you have the momentum? There is a rule that changes the deciding of infringements according to who has momentum?

Ok. Right. So why didn't RFC get more in Q1-3?

Also, when was this rule introduced? What number/clause is it under in the rule-book? Is it one of Shocking's?

This is amazing given that clearly we have had momentum in so many games over the last 4 years - proven by winning - yet "Played 112; Won 78 ; Free Kicks MINUS 368."

Feel free to explain because I am truly befuddled by the momentum rule.

 

[MD Jazz]

Norf getting crucified. Eagles goals on the back of awful decision making. There should be an investigation into the complete bias the eagles get at home/

 

[zippadeee]

Umpire Tallies - Including RFC Games Total
3 Howorth - 27
3 Foot -25
2 Rosebury -20
2 Donlon -19
2 Stephens -17
2 Williamson -17 *******
3 Haussen -13
3 Stevic -13
3 Deboy -12
3 Dalgeish -12
1 Nicholls -12******
4 Fleer -11
3 Hosking -10
1 Dore -10
1 Mollison -10
1 Power -10
1 Whetton -7
2 Gavine -7*******
2 Johanson -5
1 Brown +3
1 Glouftsis +4
1 Margetts +5
1 Toner +7
2 Fisher +7

Put your house on Brisbane
We will get absolutely reamed by tonight's 3 maggots

 

[mrposhman]

That’s Howorth Ed. It’s Why he is top of the table.

I can't remember which free it was, but we were kicking to the City end. Clear free in our defensive 50. Controlling umpire was Howarth, was maybe 10m away. Refused to pay it. Stevic from 40-50m away then had to blow and pay the free.

Howarth just refuses to pay frees for us.

 

[percyms]

I see we get three bad ones tonight. According to TommiesTigers table of ump we get a -17 a -12 and a -7 for tonights festivities. Yay.

 

[Willo]

Bastards!

 

[TigerForce]

Low crowd could help deflate flogs' ego.

 

[Harry]

I see we get three bad ones tonight. According to TommiesTigers table of ump we get a -17 a -12 and a -7 for tonights festivities. Yay.

Where's Glouftsis?