let 'em ...Article in this mornings Hun that the Moggies were considering redrafting him.
fair call. Took me until 30 to find my coordinationOne thing you little fellas don't understand (you can't, it's not your fault, you're small) is that when you're a big young bloke it takes longer to grow into yourself. For a year or two you lose your speed and power, sometimes your coordination. Williams is a big lump of a kid, but he's still a kid. Turns 18 in December.
Could we get him as a delisted free agent?If we sign Blake Schlensog, we draft all mids.
Same as stengal,yes.Could we get him as a delisted free agent?
I think his leap is overrated too, I don't see him use it like Naughton, more for spoiling rather than climbing on shoulders.Just finished watching another GWVR game and I tell you what, dunno if anyone has raised this before, but I reckon there’s a query on Josh Gibcus’ kicking. If you haven’t seen many games of his games before then watch the Academy game v Geelong where he misses some real simple 25m kicks to a team mate and you’ll get a very small example.
In this particular game, like a few others I’ve watched of his in the NAB, he misses targets with some simple unforced errors even kicking the ball out on the full twice - under no pressure.
His action doesn’t look that bad and he can hit targets, and I don’t expect it’ll factor too much in the Draft order for him, but geez he needs to tidy it up a bit. Fantastic mark. Fantastic leap. Can see why he’s got number 1 key defender tag on him, but he can turn it over a bit by foot sometimes.
I do recall u saying that, IMO it's a bit hard to judge our younger guys given they haven't been getting snr games as we've been a contender & there's been no VFL, so Dow in poarticular has pretty much 2 yrs developement since being draft & was ill at the start of this season. He's shown flashes but that's all these guys have been able to show. Big pre season for the likes of RCD (hopefully he's got himself a running Coach) & Dow in particular. Also keen on your thoughts on how Stack is tracking as u had him as a bust due to lack of fitness & ultimately went undrafted, tho again he's had 0 pre season to speak of & could be anything from next yr if he puts his mind to it, which it seems is all that can stop him.The pressure will be building on Clarke due to the stalled development of Dow & RCD, I'm still of the opinion that RCD was the right call although I think Matt Clarke missed a golden opportunity in the 2018 draft when players like Bailey Williams from West Coast and Jack Bytel were sitting there in the second round, think it was Turk and myself screaming to sell a future first and broker a deal with the Doggies as they were about to deal with F&S West. Even at this early stage Williams & Bytel looking a bit more secured than Dow and given we've just lost two ruck forwards, Williams would have been ideal. I said at the time these types don't grow on trees and the sooner you get them in, the better. Golden opportunity missed.
No way we give up a 1st for a fringe player at another Club!McAsey is an interesting one. I heard a rumour that Adelaide weren’t overly impressed with his progress and might off load him for the right price. As I recall he did that pre-draft placement with us a few years ago so we’d have a good insight into his character. Seeing as 15 would probably get them Dawson would we be interested at that price?
Nah. He can definitely take a rangy mark with that leap. Absolutely 100%. He has timing with it too so that it makes it very hard to spoil his intercept. Besides, as a defender he doesn’t need to, and shouldn’t be, on anyone’s shoulders as such. If he was, he’d be up the other end of the ground.I think his leap is overrated too, I don't see him use it like Naughton, more for spoiling rather than climbing on shoulders.
Stack I could see playing in a premiership team, I think there's a place in the team perhaps in a rebounding role. Don't think he can be relied upon for clearances but as a Jarman Impey type, definitely. Dow seems outside to me but I might be wrong, think he probably faces the most pressure at this stage.I do recall u saying that, IMO it's a bit hard to judge our younger guys given they haven't been getting snr games as we've been a contender & there's been no VFL, so Dow in poarticular has pretty much 2 yrs developement since being draft & was ill at the start of this season. He's shown flashes but that's all these guys have been able to show. Big pre season for the likes of RCD (hopefully he's got himself a running Coach) & Dow in particular. Also keen on your thoughts on how Stack is tracking as u had him as a bust due to lack of fitness & ultimately went undrafted, tho again he's had 0 pre season to speak of & could be anything from next yr if he puts his mind to it, which it seems is all that can stop him.
From what I saw of Sheldrick I wouldn't be saying he good either side.Testing will tell the tale with Sheldrick. At 179cm/88kg (!) he's a proper pig. Immovable over the ball and a good user on either side of the body. Looks and plays like a stockier, more inside Zach Merrett. Unfashionable type so could go later than his production suggests.
As for the 'lumbering' Williams, he never seems to have much trouble creating separation with his backman, unlike JVR and even Amiss. Great set of mitts too. I would jump on him at 26.
Would you say he could transition to the forward line like Naughton? This may cover his deficiencies in the kicking area, although Naughton is still shanking from 20 metres he can get lucky from further out. A touch of the Travis Cloke's about him.Nah. He can definitely take a rangy mark with that leap. Absolutely 100%. He has timing with it too so that it makes it very hard to spoil his intercept. Besides, as a defender he doesn’t need to, and shouldn’t be, on anyone’s shoulders as such. If he was, he’d be up the other end of the ground.
He’s played up forward as a junior quite successfully in the BFL and that was where the Rebels assumed he’d make his mark (to use a pun) when they brought him into their program. But he quickly developed into a CHB and that’s where he’s been for a while now although they have swung him forward on occasion including a few late season games this year. His duality was mentioned by a few judges last year as an upside. Whether it’s genuine upside…. who knows.Would you say he could transition to the forward line like Naughton? This may cover his deficiencies in the kicking area, although Naughton is still shanking from 20 metres he can get lucky from further out. A touch of the Travis Cloke's about him.
Agree, I would do that deal for the Suns pick 3.Trading a future first we should be aiming to get top 5.
Especially after this season (21) when clubs will be uncertain if we bounce back or crash completely. Both options are viable, so it can be an enticing trade for a club.
We gotta be careful not to do a collinghood, trading at a top 3 for a pick 9 (that is shifted to 11)
Why not, but our crew will *smile* it Down the drain anyway.No way we give up a 1st for a fringe player at another Club!
Would you say he could transition to the forward line like Naughton? This may cover his deficiencies in the kicking area, although Naughton is still shanking from 20 metres he can get lucky from further out. A touch of the Travis Cloke's about him.
Gibcus is an interesting one come draft day. There was talk he could go as early as Pick 3 at GC but now that doesnt seem likely.He’s played up forward as a junior quite successfully in the BFL and that was where the Rebels assumed he’d make his mark (to use a pun) when they brought him into their program. But he quickly developed into a CHB and that’s where he’s been for a while now although they have swung him forward on occasion including a few late season games this year. His duality was mentioned by a few judges last year as an upside. Whether it’s genuine upside…. who knows.
Bottom line is, yes he can play there as a pinch hitter, but is it his best spot and are you getting full value from his talents and does he feel just as comfortable there ? Probably not.
Lambert has paired up with RCD this off-season and has been working with him to improve his running and fitness.I do recall u saying that, IMO it's a bit hard to judge our younger guys given they haven't been getting snr games as we've been a contender & there's been no VFL, so Dow in poarticular has pretty much 2 yrs developement since being draft & was ill at the start of this season. He's shown flashes but that's all these guys have been able to show. Big pre season for the likes of RCD (hopefully he's got himself a running Coach) & Dow in particular. Also keen on your thoughts on how Stack is tracking as u had him as a bust due to lack of fitness & ultimately went undrafted, tho again he's had 0 pre season to speak of & could be anything from next yr if he puts his mind to it, which it seems is all that can stop him.
I think I d prefer a Browne to a Brown.Have heard twice now through different sources that Richmond have an interest in Tom Brown. Not really sure why. Neat skills, can use his opposite side when he needs to, very well balanced and a turn of pace. But very skinny and light, very very outside and playing a bit of a cheap clean up role with the Bushrangers across half back. He can play up forward though.
Anyway, if that’s true they’d know why and for what role or purpose that he might be in consideration for. Maybe a hard running wing role. Who knows. Might just be due diligence and/or general interest. Just putting it out there.