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DavidSSS

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A report, titled “The Genome Revolution,” asked clients,“Is curing patients a sustainable business model?”

Goldman Sachs’ analyst Salveen Richter and colleagues answered with, “The potential to deliver ‘one shot cures’ is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy, genetically engineered cell therapy, and gene editing. However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies… While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow.”

The report went on to demonstrate the case of Gilead Sciences, which markets treatments for hepatitis C that have cure rates exceeding 90 percent. In 2015, the company’s hepatitis C treatment sales peaked at $12.5 billion. But as more people were cured and there were fewer infected individuals to spread the disease, sales began to languish. Goldman Sachs analysts estimate that the treatments will bring in less than $4 billion this year.


Remember the old drug Industry motto. Every patient cured is a customer lost.

Lamb, I agree.

Time to get rid of capitalism, greed is not good, it is selfish and irresponsible and no basis to run a society.

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DavidSSS

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Absolute madness. AUSSIE Expert in endocrinology, immunology and Vaccine MANUFACTURER is apparently an anti vaxxer.



Vaccines are approved after trials show they are safe and effective.

Still, I suppose if you tout untried "cures" why not tout untried vaccines.

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lamb22

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Vaccines are approved after trials show they are safe and effective.

Still, I suppose if you tout untried "cures" why not tout untried vaccines.

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It is approved................ in Iran. Novavax is both safer and more effective than the Pfizer, Moderna and Astrazeneca vaccine yet still not approved here.



 
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It is approved................ in Iran. Novavax is both safer and more effective than the Pfizer, Moderna and Astrazeneca vaccine yet still not approved here.




Iran?? Oh that truly trustworthy nation.

Not sure if you are trying to be disingenuous or you just are but nowhere did anyone call that professor an anti-vaxxer, they were your words.

The mandate is very clear, you MUST be vaccinated with a TGA approved vaccine. He decided to give himself 1 that was not TGA approved, so what does he expect? He now claims that they don't know of any side effects and it could be dangerous.

The fact that in the same article they reference a participant in his trial, who asked the Professor if it was ok to take the AZ vaccine having participated in the trial and he said it was ok. So its ok for someone else but not for himself. Oh right.

"SA Best MLC Frank Pangallo was part of the COVAX-19 trial in Adelaide last year and then received his first AstraZeneca jab.

Just before getting the AstraZeneca vaccine he called Professor Petrovsky who, Mr Pangallo said, told him he "couldn't see it being an obstacle to having it".

"I did not have any side effects from Professor Petrovsky's vaccine, nor did I have any from the AstraZeneca first shot," Mr Pangallo said."
 
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lamb22

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I think it's important to remember that regulatory approval or non approval does not equate with safety and efficacy, I would have thought enough examples have previously been provided here.

Anyway here's one more. The first anti viral treatment approved by the FDA and TGA for use against Covid. It has zero beneficial and possibly negative effect and is toxic to the liver. It does cost $US3000 for a treatment though.



 
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lamb22

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Iran?? Oh that truly trustworthy nation.

Not sure if you are trying to be disingenuous or you just are but nowhere did anyone call that professor an anti-vaxxer, they were your words.

The mandate is very clear, you MUST be vaccinated with a TGA approved vaccine. He decided to give himself 1 that was not TGA approved, so what does he expect? He now claims that they don't know of any side effects and it could be dangerous.

The fact that in the same article they reference a participant in his trial, who asked the Professor if it was ok to take the AZ vaccine having participated in the trial and he said it was ok. So its ok for someone else but not for himself. Oh right.

"SA Best MLC Frank Pangallo was part of the COVAX-19 trial in Adelaide last year and then received his first AstraZeneca jab.

Just before getting the AstraZeneca vaccine he called Professor Petrovsky who, Mr Pangallo said, told him he "couldn't see it being an obstacle to having it".

"I did not have any side effects from Professor Petrovsky's vaccine, nor did I have any from the AstraZeneca first shot," Mr Pangallo said."
I posted an interview with him. It's a long video but interesting. A lot more informative than your template ABC article.

But I see you're one of "The mandate is CLEAR, You MUST BE VACCINATED" crowd. Science and nuance and common sense withers away in that environment.
 

lamb22

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A bit racist.

However more to the point he has a 30,000 person trial showing it works and he has antibodies form taking his vaccine. Exactly why on any public health reason should he be forced take a competitor's vaccine.

You guys just twist and turn. First it's the vaccine manufacturers can do no wrong and then you have the temerity sitting at your keyboard to dis an eminent Australian who first develops a vaccine (wwhhhaaattt!!) and then has another country accept his vaccine................ and why?

You're probably in a better position to answer that.
 
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AngryAnt

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It is approved................ in Iran. Novavax is both safer and more effective than the Pfizer, Moderna and Astrazeneca vaccine yet still not approved here.




This vaccine could the best vaccine ever developed, but if it's not yet approved in Australia then it's not yet approved in Australia.

Doesn't seem like a hard concept to grasp to me.
 
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eZyT

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Oh, that’s what I thought you were joking about.

haha, no joke. I was wondering what you saw.

I thought Iranians were Arabs. I thought everyone in the Middle East outside Israel was an Arab.

Ive let down my family, my teammates and my club, Iranians

and @lamb22
 
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CarnTheTiges

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It would also be wrong as Iranians aren't ethnically Arab, nor do they speak Arabic.
I was going to mention that, but it probably doesn’t belong in this thread. It is a fascinating distinction to read about, though, and also realise how much of modern European society has its roots in the spread of the Iranian people.
 
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Our peak of cases (24,993 on 25/10) was just over a month after NSW peak (27941 on 09/09), and our total vaccinations (10,156,138) are about the same as what NSW was just over a month ago (although we're very close on doses per population).
Even though our cases are still over 1000 a day, active cases continue to drop, and Reff has been under 1 for over two weeks.

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VIC has had lower hospitalisations per case than NSW during the current waves. Hospitalisations and ICU numbers are 2-3 weeks behind NSW trend

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Got an update on this Killerbee ? Two weeks on and Victoria still registering 1200 cases a day. NSW down to 170. 317 in hospital in Victoria. 170 in NSW.
 

Baloo

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Iranians are predominantly Persians. Shame they stopped manufacturing the flying carpet.