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The unvacced

tigertim

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Cam Ellis Yolman another yet to be vaxxed, been put on Brisbanes inactive list.
 

Baloo

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No matter your opinion on the decision the continuing closure of the WA borders likely puts the AFL season in early trouble.
It will again force the travel bubbles around the visiting teams to Perth or even will result in the Weagles and the Dockers relocating like the scorchers have done.
The season is only 9 weeks away.

As long as they let WCE bring their umpires, they won't be that disadvantaged
 
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MD Jazz

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Novax, vaxxed, unvaxxed…what the f”ck has that got to do with our tigers? This was the only place where you can get away from all that crap.
You don't have to read it Tommy. Pretty clear what it is about from the thread title.
 
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TigerMasochist

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Better than the Happy Clappers in Canberra and NSW that think God is going to stop Omnicron
But that's the way all the flavours of happy clappers think. God's will. That way they don't have to be responsible for anything that happens, it's all just the big fella upstairs doing his thing.
 
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Ghost of 29

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Don’t see the issue with players not getting the health supplement known as Pfizer etc.. the current version was designed specifically for the Alpha variant and against Omicron it doesn’t stop transmission or people getting it, only a vague claim that it reduces severe cases/hospitalisation. So in that case what’s it matter if a person is injected or not??
 
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DavidSSS

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Don’t see the issue with players not getting the health supplement known as Pfizer etc.. the current version was designed specifically for the Alpha variant and against Omicron it doesn’t stop transmission or people getting it, only a vague claim that it reduces severe cases/hospitalisation. So in that case what’s it matter if a person is injected or not??

A vague claim? More like evidence from around the world where millions (billions?) have been vaccinated and the death rate has fallen. Plus, the vaccines do reduce infection rates, there is ample evidence of this. Add in that most of those getting sick and dying from COVID are not vaccinated, less the case in Australia because the proportion of the population unvaccinated is so low.

Why wouldn't you get vaccinated?

Why should those of us who are vaccinated have to be exposed to the pestilence carried around by the morons who aren't? Even more so for the extremely small number of people who can't get vaccinated.

DS
 
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Ghost of 29

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A vague claim? More like evidence from around the world where millions (billions?) have been vaccinated and the death rate has fallen. Plus, the vaccines do reduce infection rates, there is ample evidence of this. Add in that most of those getting sick and dying from COVID are not vaccinated, less the case in Australia because the proportion of the population unvaccinated is so low.

Why wouldn't you get vaccinated?

Why should those of us who are vaccinated have to be exposed to the pestilence carried around by the morons who aren't? Even more so for the extremely small number of people who can't get vaccinated.

DS
The CEO from Pfizer even admitted it doesn’t stop transmission or infection. This may change once they update to a specific Omicron variant vaccine.
 

DavidSSS

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The CEO from Pfizer even admitted it doesn’t stop transmission or infection. This may change once they update to a specific Omicron variant vaccine.

Nice, show me where I said it stopped transmission.

I said reduce, and it does.

DS
 
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Ghost of 29

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Nice, show me where I said it stopped transmission.

I said reduce, and it does.

DS
It may have have early on with Alpha through Delta but not Omicron. The sheer number of + cases shows this.
It doesn’t stop transmission. You couldn’t even measure “reduce”.
mRNA is a specific coded vaccine to a specific virus unlike the protein based vaccines that we get for polio, measles, chicken pox etc. once a virus mutates the vaccine becomes ineffective to varying degrees the further it mutates from the original.
So to my original point, it makes no sense demanding people get a jab for something that only provides some reduction of severity or hospitalisation but doesn’t stop (reduce) transmission or infection.
On an anecdotal evidence, everyone I know bar 2 who had it were doubled with a few being tripled. All symptoms were from a mild cold to flu like. The 2 who were unvaxxed were no better/worse than the others.
 
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HR

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I am vaxed and have not been well since getting the vaccine. Travelled to Europe - Germany then Poland and Ukraine. Its a big joke over there what Australia is doing. I was on packed planes, crowed places did not catch covid. I came back to the airport in Melbourne.....only one person spoke to me and that was a customs lady who asked if I had anything to declare. If this is the worst Pandemic ever, the Government is not taking any precautions at the point of entry into the country. 1000 people would have entered while I was at the airport.

I had a huge distain for Djokervic now after his pathetic treatment at the hands of the Australian Government I have great admiration for him. It was a political stunt by Morrison as Novak is unpopular. He got deported not because he was unvaccinated but because he was seen as a risk to incite antivax sentiment WTF. what has happened to our country.
I'm triple vaxxed and don't feel the vaccination has done anything to me apart from offer me protection.
I feel bloody lucky to be in my position and would never take it for granted like others, including the goose Novak. The government got it right big time in the outcome for him.
WA will/may never be more ready than now. Who knows? Open the place up before public sentiment turns against McGowan and controls are ignored.
McGowan has had the easiest job in the country for 2 years, WA is that kind of place.
 
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HR

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It may have have early on with Alpha through Delta but not Omicron. The sheer number of + cases shows this.
It doesn’t stop transmission. You couldn’t even measure “reduce”.
mRNA is a specific coded vaccine to a specific virus unlike the protein based vaccines that we get for polio, measles, chicken pox etc. once a virus mutates the vaccine becomes ineffective to varying degrees the further it mutates from the original.
So to my original point, it makes no sense demanding people get a jab for something that only provides some reduction of severity or hospitalisation but doesn’t stop (reduce) transmission or infection.
On an anecdotal evidence, everyone I know bar 2 who had it were doubled with a few being tripled. All symptoms were from a mild cold to flu like. The 2 who were unvaxxed were no better/worse than the others.
Dr McGowan told me that the 3rd dose gives me 64% protection against contracting the virus.
2% after 2 doses???
No one in the media questioned his information!
 

MD Jazz

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So to my original point, it makes no sense demanding people get a jab for something that only provides some reduction of severity or hospitalisation but doesn’t stop (reduce) transmission or infection.
You initially said a vague claim about it reducing severity hospitalisation. You've upped it to some reduction.

It's not a vague claim or some reduction, it's a huge reduction when you look at the numbers of people in hospital/ICU/deaths by vaccination status.

Only a moron (or someone who is health compromised and advised not to) would choose not to get vaccinated.
 
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AngryAnt

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The CEO from Pfizer even admitted it doesn’t stop transmission or infection. This may change once they update to a specific Omicron variant vaccine.

He actually said the original course of two vaccinations is less effective against Omicron but a third vaccination gives good protection against infrction and illness.

Like many such twisted "facts" this idea is now an article of faith with antivaxxers.
 
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Ghost of 29

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He actually said the original course of two vaccinations is less effective against Omicron but a third vaccination gives good protection against infrction and illness.

Like many such twisted "facts" this idea is now an article of faith with antivaxxers.
I’m far from an anti vaxxer, but smear away if it makes you feel better about your obvious undying love of the Pfizer health supplement.
 
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