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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

TT33

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Lucky he didn't connect properly or he'd have ended his career.



It was pretty comparable to the ones paid in the Brisbane Hawthorn game. I'd have expected a coach to highlight those in the pre game planning and tell the players not to do anything out of play that could provoke a free kick. Someone let us down.

Frankly that's a pretty poor answer, a week or so back you were all over Pickedtt being undisciplined. But it's ok for Buddy to deliberately punch a guy in the head & it's "lucky he didn't connect properly"
 
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The Big Richo

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What about the 756 that weren't paid last week and won't be this week?
I thought I would just turn on the footy for 10 minutes and looked at the 2 games to check the scores.

I saw 3-4 incidents that should have been penalised if Rioli's was ok to pay. There sure are a lot of dumb footballers around .................. and lucky ones too !!

But all the other kids were doing it didn't work for me in primary school and it doesn't wash for professional athletes either.

Control what you can control which is your own actions.

What did we all think when the Swan had the free against Vlastuin reversed? What a moron, didn't need to do it, nothing to gain, everything to lose. Same goes for Rioli.

You might get away with out of play stuff lots of times but when someone decides it is over the line you get pinged. And as we all saw last week that line can be a very low bar.

In a cut-throat professional competition where the difference between success and the rest measured in next to nothing, why on earth would you risk handing ovr an advantage with nothing to gain from it?
 
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The Big Richo

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Frankly that's a pretty poor answer, a week or so back you were all over Pickedtt being undisciplined. But it's ok for Buddy to deliberately punch a guy in the head & it's "lucky he didn't connect properly"

I answered it in more detail somewhere else.

He lost his temper, snapped and did something stupid. Will probably cost him 2 weeks and he's lucky it didn't cost him 16.

Buddy is undisciplined, but he's great enough that it doesn't matter.
 
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That prohibited contact one was simply ridiculous.

What did Rioli do? Bumped a player front on, very lightly, after the ball went out of play.

Does that fit any of these:
(a) executes a tackle that is not legal (refer to the definition of Legal Tackle);​
(b) pushes or bumps an opposition Player in the back;​
(c) makes high contact to an opposition Player (including the top of the shoulders) with any part of their body;​
(d) holds an opposition Player who is not in possession of the football;​
(e) executes an illegal Shepherd;​
(f) Charges an opposition Player;​
(g) trips or attempts to trip an opposition Player, whether by hand, arm, foot or leg;​
(h) kicks or attempts to kick an opposition Player;​
(i) kicks or attempts to kick the football in a manner likely to cause injury;​
(j) strikes or attempts to strike an opposition Player, whether by hand, fist, arm, knee or head;​
(k) bumps or makes forceful contact to an opposition Player from front-on when that Player has their head down over the football.​

Not a tackle, did not bump in the back, no high contact, did not hold the other player, was not a shepherd, did not charge the opposition player, no trip, did not kick the other player, did not kick the football at all, did not strike the other player, the opposition player did not have their head over the football.

It is a big list, but this is a ridiculous interpretation. Yes, they should have been a bit wary of this after last week's absurdity, but how many other times did this happen in the game and no free was paid?

DS
18.3 PROHIBITED CONTACT
18.3.1 Spirit and Intention
A Player who makes the football their sole objective shall be provided every opportunity todoso.
18.3.2 Free Kicks - Prohibited Contact
A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player when that Player makes any of the following Prohibited Contact with an opposition Player:
(a) executes a tackle that is not legal (refer to the definition of Legal Tackle);
(b) pushes or bumps an opposition Player in the back;
(c) makes high contact to an opposition Player (including the top of the shoulders) with any part of their body;
(d) holds an opposition Player who is not in possession of the football;
(e) executes an illegal Shepherd;
(f) Charges an opposition Player;
(g) trips or attempts to trip an opposition Player, whether by hand, arm, foot or leg;
(h) kicks or attempts to kick an opposition Player;
(i) kicks or attempts to kick the football in a manner likely to cause injury;
(j) strikes or attempts to strike an opposition Player, whether by hand, fist, arm, knee or head;
(k) bumps or makes forceful contact to an opposition Player from front-on when that Player has their head down over the football.
18.3.3 Permitted Contact
A Player may use their hip, shoulder, chest, armsor open hands provided that the football is no more than five metres away fromthe Player and the Player does not make Prohibited Contact as per Law 18.3.2 above.
All of these silly words and clauses are redundant when you simply apply the '...it's just common sense' interpretation, as was applied last night. Who needs 'Laws of The Game'?
 
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TT33

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I answered it in more detail somewhere else.

He lost his temper, snapped and did something stupid. Will probably cost him 2 weeks and he's lucky it didn't cost him 16.

Buddy is undisciplined, but he's great enough that it doesn't matter.

He certainly is & he gets away with it far more than any other player I've ever seen.

Being great shouldn't help him get away with it. That's what schitts me about the whole AFL media thing, they have their favourite who can get away with almost anything. Imagine if Tom Lynch did what Buddy did last night, they'd be calling for him to get 4 weeks minimum, you can't deny that.
 
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A bunch of swans resembling a junior high drama class with their poor acting all night. Unfortunately umps responding in second half like work experience teachers of that class rewarding effor rather than skill. Heemey in particular unforgivable
That is the crux of the problem, some teams act for the free and the umpires don't seem to see that action but go for the insinuated crime
 
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He certainly is & he gets away with it far more than any other player I've ever seen.

Being great shouldn't help him get away with it. That's what schitts me about the whole AFL media thing, they have their favourite who can get away with almost anything. Imagine if Tom Lynch did what Buddy did last night, they'd be calling for him to get 4 weeks minimum, you can't deny that.
Some clubs have serial cheaters but the worst without doubt are Geelong with Dangerfield, Selwood and Hawkins etc falling over at the very thought of any impact but more than happy to dish it out. I am still incensed with Dangerfield straight arm tackle on Vlastuin in the 2020 GF and Hawkins shoving Balta into Soldo's knee and getting a free for his troubles
 
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Harry

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Heh heh heh - can't believe they played the common sense card on us
 
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I've heard on the grapevine that the umpires have a new sponsor. Rheem hot water systems.

The Rheem CEO said, "we think our name is synonymous with AFL umpiring so it seemed a perfect relationship to build. Now we can boil your water at home and boil your *smile* at the footy".
 
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I've heard on the grapevine that the umpires have a new sponsor. Rheem hot water systems.

The Rheem CEO said, "we think our name is synonymous with AFL umpiring so it seemed a perfect relationship to build. Now we can boil your water at home and boil your *smile* at the footy".
Slogan have you been Rheemed lately?
RFC gets Rheemed every game
 
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18.3 PROHIBITED CONTACT
18.3.1 Spirit and Intention
A Player who makes the football their sole objective shall be provided every opportunity todoso.
18.3.2 Free Kicks - Prohibited Contact
A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player when that Player makes any of the following Prohibited Contact with an opposition Player:
(a) executes a tackle that is not legal (refer to the definition of Legal Tackle);
(b) pushes or bumps an opposition Player in the back;
(c) makes high contact to an opposition Player (including the top of the shoulders) with any part of their body;
(d) holds an opposition Player who is not in possession of the football;
(e) executes an illegal Shepherd;
(f) Charges an opposition Player;
(g) trips or attempts to trip an opposition Player, whether by hand, arm, foot or leg;
(h) kicks or attempts to kick an opposition Player;
(i) kicks or attempts to kick the football in a manner likely to cause injury;
(j) strikes or attempts to strike an opposition Player, whether by hand, fist, arm, knee or head;
(k) bumps or makes forceful contact to an opposition Player from front-on when that Player has their head down over the football.
18.3.3 Permitted Contact
A Player may use their hip, shoulder, chest, armsor open hands provided that the football is no more than five metres away fromthe Player and the Player does not make Prohibited Contact as per Law 18.3.2 above.

Rioli did none of these.

Plenty of other players this weekend have done the same as Rioli and not been penalised.

Why the inconsistency?

DS
 
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just saw the facebook post about the impossible to figure out sam reid free kick and first goal to swans...how on earth anyone could of found a free kick is utterly mind melting..there is no free kick there, the umps just made *smile* up...are they cheating? ive started to hate the afl/ The sheer hopelessness of the umpiring is so completely over whelming .Can you beleive the current board have dismantled 122 years of great footy in ten short weeks. .Have fans across the board ever been this angry?...what brad scott and company have done to this game we love is catastrophic.Do these people even like footy> what exactly is their adgenda?
 
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Buddy is undisciplined, but he's great enough that it doesn't matter.
How many flags he got?

Amazing player but always capable of plenty of dog acts on a footy field. For such a great athlete he’s very soft at the air ball. Lacks courage when going for overhead contested marks, never puts himself in vulnerable positions in the air. But loves cleaning blokes up in vulnerable positions. The sign of a bit of a *smile* of a bloke.
 
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