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Dustin Martin

leon

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The most disappointing aspect for me was hearing the Brisbane crowd booing Dusty when he took a mark or gathered the ball in general play. Why? No respect for a great player shown by brainless supporters who believe the gutter press headlines. After all he's been through he must have been wondering what he's done to deserve this? At least he's got Emma to help him.
Jealousy and resentment for his brilliance, especially against Brisvegas in big games, from the semi-morons. There's always some in any footy crowd.
 
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Tigers2011

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My hope for Dusty is he fully commits for the final two years of this contract with the reality the team is a huge flag contender in both seasons - especially if we fix what we know needs fixing - Midfield.

He’s already a Tiger legend & should retire here as one, hopefully with even more legacy pieces still to come. Up to him with support to get his mind & body right.
 
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Carter

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I've typed out 6 replies and deleted them all because last time I tried to explain this season I got worked up and shared information I shouldn't have.

So all I'll say this time is I don't think that is the case. This year has been a mess for lots of reasons, some that were avoidable and I am very confident next year will be better and we will see the champ back to a very high standard.

great to hear and thanks for the insight.
 
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achillesjones

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My hope for Dusty is he fully commits for the final two years of this contract with the reality the team is a huge flag contender in both seasons - especially if we fix what we know needs fixing - Midfield.

He’s already a Tiger legend & should retire here as one, hopefully with even more legacy pieces still to come. Up to him with support to get his mind & body right.
Always a legend. Wherever he retires he will be loved by all Tigers. But, if he is so unhappy in Melbourne, it will be to everyone's benefit if he goes north. His status as one of the best we have seen will never change.
 
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Mr Brightside

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Jon Ralph reporting Dusty, Riewoldt and Cotch all keen to play on with Tige's next year, with the later two incurring significant salary haircuts to do so.
Interesting with the old boys , would they not come under your watchful eye until late January ? Is it a worth thought not playing them a lot in the first month of the season ?
 
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The media didn't set the agenda here though, they have refused to use it when it has been shopped around.

The person concerned has attempted to make money off it and once that has been unsuccessful they have spread it around for free.

Once it became public the media doesn't have a choice but to report on it. The best player of the past decade, if not ever, in a video touching a naked woman is a story any way you look at it. If it was Degoey and the media ignored it once it was public this site would melt down with bias accusations. Blaming the media is a cop out in my opinion.

Unfortunately he allowed himself to be filmed in a compromising position and it is a poor look. We can all appreciate the extenuating circumstances but he has done the wrong thing and he is just going to have to cop what comes until it blows over, acknowledge the mistake, apologise and let everyone know it was a long time ag and he has learnt his lesson.
Hmmm…let’s set out some facts and observations.

1. According to many the video has been circulating for quite some time - happy to be corrected.

2. Now a question, timing is a coincidence? The day before we play an elimination final and one in which Dusty returns. Does anyone think that‘s a coincidence? If you do, I’m jealous of the naive innocent world you live in.

3. What relevance has a video from 2015, yes 7 years ago, have today. Perhaps we should ask the AFL executive team whether they ever visited a strip club? Actually let’s ask them to sign a stat dec Just to be sure.

4. Unless the law changed on Wednesday, I don’t recall visiting a strip club or other venue is illegal. I’m sure that the player contracts do not say a player can’t go to a strip club.

5. While going to a strip club may not be for everyone, that’s a person‘s choice - unless it’s illegal it is no one’s business. Just because some fool took a video doesn‘t change that.

6. let’s compare to something that is illegal and is kept private and confidential - when a player tests positive for an ILLICIT substance why is that kept secret even by the media - compare the various whispers involving the AFL ambassador Buddy. Whether they are true or not, they were well known - not one report.

7. Media didn’t have a choice - seriously? See pt 6 - surely you don’t need me to point out many examples where the media have made a conscious choice not to report something which they know is true. I’ll give you an easy football one - Melbourne in 2020 involving Goodwin nearly getting sacked. Not one report until Bartlett spoke out a few months ago.

8. Dusty apologising for what? Doing something which is legal and in a private function. Now if the lady involved has since complained, well that is a completely different thing. Would love to hear her view of things. That’s all that counts: not the view of some 50 year old bloke trying to save his million dollar plus wage.

9. If the AFL wants to properly sit on its high horse, it should have the guts to put it in the player contracts. No strip clubs, no brothels, no drinking in public, no kissing a lady or man in a bar or night club. Wonder how that would sit with AFLPA or workplace laws.
 
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MD Jazz

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Why does it matter when it happened. Facts are it happened facts are there was no permission facts are that’s deemed as sexual harassment.
How do you know no permission? Were you there?
 
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billyb#40

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Fortunately footy is played inside the fence, and only between the ones wearing those jumpers, the rest is just speculation.
The playing list is goodish but a bit more premium needs to be placed on disposal efficiency. Toss out those who can’t hit it up to team mates.
Cotch, Jack and Dusty should go out to dinner and commit to one more big year chasing another flag.
 

Tenacious

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Yeah crazy Caro wrote some crap in the H-Sun trying to make it bigger than necessary about being disrespectful to women but it didn’t swim, it sank
There certainly was a Caro article in The Age on Saturday

Anyway it would be interesting to hear from Caro whether at any stage in her career she has participated in any behaviour (even just comments, conversations, jokes and the like) that by todays standards would be regarded as completely disrespectful to certain groups.

And if so - and even if it was years ago - would she expect to be pilloried for it now?
 
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houstontiger

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I've typed out 6 replies and deleted them all because last time I tried to explain this season I got worked up and shared information I shouldn't have.

So all I'll say this time is I don't think that is the case. This year has been a mess for lots of reasons, some that were avoidable and I am very confident next year will be better and we will see the champ back to a very high standard.
That's comforting to hear from someone on the inside. From the outside I guess we all fear that the Goat is now Chevron (a word used for cooked goat or goat meat). I hope he gets back to close to his best.
 
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Dimma stated he was only 80% fit & given his moderate output once again the question should be asked about rushing underdone players back into the team.
I'm not sure his inclusion helped (if anything it unsettled Bolton & Cumberland's roles) . I think it's worth posing the question that no matter who you are, that if rushed back without match fitness, there the possiblity of negative consequences. Even someone as good as Dusty.
 
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Coburgtiger

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We had to play Dusty.

If we wanted a real shot at a flag, he needed game time. We needed him firing by GF day.

We needed to be able to carry him through an elimination final, to get him to carry us to a flag.

It was the right gamble.

Just the wrong result.

We went chips in on the flag, not on winning a single final.

Sometimes a good decision works out poorly.
 
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We had to play Dusty.

If we wanted a real shot at a flag, he needed game time. We needed him firing by GF day.

We needed to be able to carry him through an elimination final, to get him to carry us to a flag.

It was the right gamble.

Just the wrong result.

We went chips in on the flag, not on winning a single final.

Sometimes a good decision works out poorly.
Well explained. That's certainly looking at it glass half full. I'm ok with that but it's still an interesting question to pose. Especially as the team was flying after 4 on the trot.
May have got away with it though if Prestia isn't injured.
 
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The Big Richo

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Hmmm…let’s set out some facts and observations.

1. According to many the video has been circulating for quite some time - happy to be corrected.

2. Now a question, timing is a coincidence? The day before we play an elimination final and one in which Dusty returns. Does anyone think that‘s a coincidence? If you do, I’m jealous of the naive innocent world you live in.

3. What relevance has a video from 2015, yes 7 years ago, have today. Perhaps we should ask the AFL executive team whether they ever visited a strip club? Actually let’s ask them to sign a stat dec Just to be sure.

4. Unless the law changed on Wednesday, I don’t recall visiting a strip club or other venue is illegal. I’m sure that the player contracts do not say a player can’t go to a strip club.

5. While going to a strip club may not be for everyone, that’s a person‘s choice - unless it’s illegal it is no one’s business. Just because some fool took a video doesn‘t change that.

6. let’s compare to something that is illegal and is kept private and confidential - when a player tests positive for an ILLICIT substance why is that kept secret even by the media - compare the various whispers involving the AFL ambassador Buddy. Whether they are true or not, they were well known - not one report.

7. Media didn’t have a choice - seriously? See pt 6 - surely you don’t need me to point out many examples where the media have made a conscious choice not to report something which they know is true. I’ll give you an easy football one - Melbourne in 2020 involving Goodwin nearly getting sacked. Not one report until Bartlett spoke out a few months ago.

8. Dusty apologising for what? Doing something which is legal and in a private function. Now if the lady involved has since complained, well that is a completely different thing. Would love to hear her view of things. That’s all that counts: not the view of some 50 year old bloke trying to save his million dollar plus wage.

9. If the AFL wants to properly sit on its high horse, it should have the guts to put it in the player contracts. No strip clubs, no brothels, no drinking in public, no kissing a lady or man in a bar or night club. Wonder how that would sit with AFLPA or workplace laws.

So if I'm understanding all that, you're contention is that when someone makes public a video of the biggest player in the game, touching an almost naked woman on the breast, that the media shouldn't report it?

And you think I live in a naive world?
 

TigerPort

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We had to play Dusty.

If we wanted a real shot at a flag, he needed game time. We needed him firing by GF day.

We needed to be able to carry him through an elimination final, to get him to carry us to a flag.

It was the right gamble.

Just the wrong result.

We went chips in on the flag, not on winning a single final.

Sometimes a good decision works out poorly.

It didn't work out poorly. We only lost by 2 points. Lynch kicks the goal we win. One of the 5 players in the defensive goal square actually get a fist to the ball and punch it through the goals we win

Playing Dusty was not the reason we lost
 
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Baloo

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Well explained. That's certainly looking at it glass half full. I'm ok with that but it's still an interesting question to pose. Especially as the team was flying after 4 on the trot.
May have got away with it though if Prestia isn't injured.

Even with Prestia out. Lynch missed one right in front in the last and then the infamous fARC decision.

Add to that the complete panic when the pill was coming into our square and we all went for it, rather than block and let 1 grab it.

That game was ours for the taking, even with an underdone Martin and injured Prestia.
 
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