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FIFA World Cup 22

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Wow - didn’t see that coming. Can’t believe we held on with only the one goal.

Regardless this world cup has now been a success - it’s such a fine line.
 
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Baloo

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Exactly what I was saying during the week though, this isn't a strong Australia squad, and their ball retention is a clear sign of that.

Its interesting watching this as an England / Australia supporter. I can definitely see trends with England in the apparent "golden generation" in the late 90's, early 2000's. We were strong enough to beat easy opposition, but it was very clear that our technical skills were nowhere near the best countries in the world, hence why we could generally get to quarters but then struggle. We went away and looked at the academy setup and invested a lot of money in technical coaching to catch up with the other European and South American countries and I think we are finally seeing some of that come to fruition.

Hopefully Australia look at this and invest where its needed, we have a big enough country to be able to have a stronger domestic league and International team.
Big difference is the English players were playing in a top flight league. If we can't get more players out there I can see much changing.
 

mrposhman

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Big difference is the English players were playing in a top flight league. If we can't get more players out there I can see much changing.

Its a chicken and egg scenario though. Need the young players coming through to have them moved into those top leagues. Even the Kuol transfer (and I keep coming back to this), he was sold for what $500k and Newcastle cannot play him. He will be loaned out for probably 3 years to get a work permit to a league in Europe, probably the Belgian league, so its another promising player being moved on at too early an age to a league thats not at that high level.

Needs to be more money invested in grass roots football in this country so better players can be brought in to the A League, and at some point moving them into the better European leagues. I guess even some of the clubs need to look at it (and this is where I don't like the 4+1). Is it better to use such a large part of your wage budget (I know outside the cap) on players like Nani, or better to bring in 4 mid tier players for the same money? They don't have the chance to do the latter so it pushes them to pay big money for bigger name players who are very good, but the odd superstar won't change the quality of the league, we've shown this numurous times, did David Vila increase the quality of the league, no, did del piero, no. Will Nani, probably not. I'd prefer the rules for overseas players is relaxed a bit, so that the quality of the A-League improves, and the quality of our young kids improves with it.
 
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MD Jazz

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Who are you referring too Lazarus? Not the time to be passive aggressive now.
You of course. And a few others. Ridiculous carry on from one game. They keep proving the doubters wrong. I fully expect you to double down on the Arnold hate and try and justify your screeching.

One win in the last 13 World Cup games yet doubt you’ll give Arnold any credit. First clean sheet for 40 years? In the World Cup. Remarkable achievements.
 

MD Jazz

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Mooy/Soutar brilliant.

If Leckie didn’t have a sledgehammer touch he’d be world class. None run or try harder. Hope he gets a well deserved goal against Denmark.
 
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Baloo

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You of course. And a few others. Ridiculous carry on from one game. They keep proving the doubters wrong. I fully expect you to double down on the Arnold hate and try and justify your screeching.

One win in the last 13 World Cup games yet doubt you’ll give Arnold any credit. First clean sheet for 40 years? In the World Cup. Remarkable achievements.
Start following soccer more than once every 4 years and you might be able to undrstand what the Arnold lament is all about.

Tonights win is fantastic. To imply me, or anyone who has bitched about the squad, is sucking eggs over an Aussie win just taking dickheadishness to a new level.

But while the win was great for us in this world cup, anyone with a little understanding of the game knows a 1-0 win doesn't change what's been happening under Arnold tenor.

Our goal, while the finish was exquisite, was a result of a poor cross that took a fortunate deflection. One inch higher or lower and that deflection wouldn't have sat up for that goal.

You walk away from a 1-0 win happy that luck went your way. It doesn vindicate anything.
 
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Baloo

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Cracking start to the Poland v Saudi match
 
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Smoking Aces

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You of course. And a few others. Ridiculous carry on from one game. They keep proving the doubters wrong. I fully expect you to double down on the Arnold hate and try and justify your screeching.

One win in the last 13 World Cup games yet doubt you’ll give Arnold any credit. First clean sheet for 40 years? In the World Cup. Remarkable achievements.
Great win but don’t get too excited. Tunisia had all the play and should have put 3 passed us. We again sat back and invited the opposition to attack.

I am glad you enjoy that style of soccer.
 

mrposhman

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Oh come on Baloo. It’s attacking soccer. I want to see ultra defensive Arnold employee tactics.

I haven't seen as much of the Socceroos as some of you, but is it ultra defensive tactics or an inability to keep and control the ball. Certainly in the 2nd half there, Australia won the ball back well, but then struggled to retain it and they more often than not gave it back to Tunisia too easily. This is a technical rather than a tactical deficiency but will result in having much less of the ball, and appearing to "sit back" even if that isn't the main tactic.

How many teams in this world cup are worse technically than Australia. Certainly Qatar are, maybe Costa Rica? Other than those 2, I think every other team appear much more comfortable on the ball.
 
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Smoking Aces

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I haven't seen as much of the Socceroos as some of you, but is it ultra defensive tactics or an inability to keep and control the ball. Certainly in the 2nd half there, Australia won the ball back well, but then struggled to retain it and they more often than not gave it back to Tunisia too easily. This is a technical rather than a tactical deficiency but will result in having much less of the ball, and appearing to "sit back" even if that isn't the main tactic.

How many teams in this world cup are worse technically than Australia. Certainly Qatar are, maybe Costa Rica? Other than those 2, I think every other team appear much more comfortable on the ball.
You make valid points Posh. Yes we are at the bottom end of the spectrum when it comes to skill. However Arnold does us no favour by playing 4 in the back. He literally plays with one ball player in Mooy. Pushing an extra player in the midfield would help our ability to retain possession but also provide enough cover for our defence.
 

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You make valid points Posh. Yes we are at the bottom end of the spectrum when it comes to skill. However Arnold does us no favour by playing 4 in the back. He literally plays with one ball player in Mooy. Pushing an extra player in the midfield would help our ability to retain possession but also provide enough cover for our defence.
Great win but don’t get too excited. Tunisia had all the play and should have put 3 passed us. We again sat back and invited the opposition to attack.

I am glad you enjoy that style of soccer.



You guys talk about the games as though we don't have an opposition out there and should simply play like a hybrid team of Spain and Brazil
 
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mrposhman

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You make valid points Posh. Yes we are at the bottom end of the spectrum when it comes to skill. However Arnold does us no favour by playing 4 in the back. He literally plays with one ball player in Mooy. Pushing an extra player in the midfield would help our ability to retain possession but also provide enough cover for our defence.
You'd prefer to play 3 at the back and wing backs? Depending on how you'd structure your forwards, you could end up with less players. Does Arnold purely stick with the 1 formation (4-1-2-3) or does he try other ones?
 

Baloo

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Glad we didn't have this ref. Not sure where ours came from but he's one of the better ones I've seen so far.