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tigerdell

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Point being is we'll be very unlikely to trade.
And not going to have early picks.


Its going to be free agent and/or picking the eyes out if the draft

The good thing is we now have a sound balance in the 24-28yo so we can bring in youngsters
 

spook

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Jed Anderson to Gold Coast. I like that for both parties. He'll give them something.
 
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The Big Richo

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Just having a look at Port's intraclub game which is streaming live on their website (more of this from us please) and there's a definite game style change underway.

Going smaller and faster up forward and happy to possess the ball instead of going to a contest. Quite a dramatic departure from how Hinkley usually likes to play.
 
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tigerman

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Just having a look at Port's intraclub game which is streaming live on their website (more of this from us please) and there's a definite game style change underway.

Going smaller and faster up forward and happy to possess the ball instead of going to a contest. Quite a dramatic departure from how Hinkley usually likes to play.
Horne Francis is a talent, as is Willie Rioli, as much as I hate to say it, I can see them improving.
 
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TigerMasochist

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Trouble with intraclub games is that it's usually probables against the wishfuls. Generally makes the probables all look like inform superstars when they're playing against the reserves n numpties.
 

turk-d-tiger

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Trouble with intraclub games is that it's usually probables against the wishfuls. Generally makes the probables all look like inform superstars when they're playing against the reserves n numpties.
Pretty much an AFL team playing against a sanfl / vfl team

probables will always look like stars
 

The Big Richo

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Trouble with intraclub games is that it's usually probables against the wishfuls. Generally makes the probables all look like inform superstars when they're playing against the reserves n numpties.

I reckon it goes the other way more often than not. The probables don't really want to play or get hurt so aren't up and firing whereas the possibles are hungry and keen and prepared to smash anyone to get ahead.
 
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Scoop

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Funny story, I flew to Adelaide for work this week. I took my regular exit row seat on the window and low and behold who plonks down next to me but big Tex Walker.
And here's the kicker, absolute gentlemen. Ripping bloke. Genuine chat for about 30 mins. Talked about everything, families, backgrounds, and footy. Told him I was a Richmond man, and he laughed and said "I always got stuck with you blokes." Spoke about the grand final, and said the noise was like nothing he has experienced. And said "how good was the power stance that day?" with a huge chuckle, I told him it had nothing to do with the outcome and he agreed and said, "we got flogged cause you bastards were too good and tough not because what we did before the bounce".

The moral of the story is 99% of what you think footballers are, they aren't. And if you treat them as normal and start yapping away, you'll be amazed and what happens.
 
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Willo

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Funny story, I flew to Adelaide for work this week. I took my regular exit row seat on the window and low and behold who plonks down next to me but big Tex Walker.
And here's the kicker, absolute gentlemen. Ripping bloke. Genuine chat for about 30 mins. Talked about everything, families, backgrounds, and footy. Told him I was a Richmond man, and he laughed and said "I always got stuck with you blokes." Spoke about the grand final, and said the noise was like nothing he has experienced. And said "how good was the power stance that day?" with a huge chuckle, I told him it had nothing to do with the outcome and he agreed and said, "we got flogged cause you bastards were too good and tough not because what we did before the bounce".

The moral of the story is 99% of what you think footballers are, they aren't. And if you treat them as normal and start yapping away, you'll be amazed and what happens.
He’s genuinely a good bloke.
A lot of people react to their perception of a person.
Most of what he does for individuals and groups goes unnoticed as he doesn’t always look for the photo ops. He really is a caring man who never forgets where he came from.
 
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The Big Richo

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The moral of the story is 99% of what you think footballers are, they aren't. And if you treat them as normal and start yapping away, you'll be amazed and what happens.

Same with coaches, media people etc, etc.

I reckon 99% of the time when nasty comments are made about someone on here, the person making them would be absolutely ashamed of themselves if they ever met the person face to face.
 

Brodders17

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The moral of the story is 99% of what you think footballers are, they aren't. And if you treat them as normal and start yapping away, you'll be amazed and what happens.
I reckon Robbie Young was amazed what happened. Or maybe he wasnt.

 

Scoop

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Thanks Brodders, really good input. Glad you got in the lab and cooked that one up over a week.
 

Brodders17

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Thanks Brodders, really good input. Glad you got in the lab and cooked that one up over a week.
You are claiming he must be a good bloke cos he had a chat with you on the plane. other evidence suggest maybe he is not.
The answer is probably somewhere in the middle, but personally I am not a fan of anyone who uses racist comments to abuse someone.
 
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The Big Richo

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You are claiming he must be a good bloke cos he had a chat with you on the plane. other evidence suggest maybe he is not.
The answer is probably somewhere in the middle, but personally I am not a fan of anyone who uses racist comments to abuse someone.

I don't think he abused him, think he made a comment to someone else about him, which was overheard and reported by an official.

Indefensible stuff but I don't crucify racists personally, no matter how abhorrent I find them. I was raised in country Victoria and was very much a racist, because that was the values and beliefs of the community I lived in. It wasn't until I moved on in my own life and had the chance to learn and grow and was lucky enough to be exposed to indigenous people and their culture, that I even realised how inherently racist my own views were.

For someone like Walker raised in Broken Hill, it would have been on a scale ten-fold. I'd say it would be remarkable if he wasn't a racist and it certainly doesn't shock me that he would need more educating than most.
 
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Tigertough1974

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I don't think he abused him, think he made a comment to someone else about him, which was overheard and reported by an official.

Indefensible stuff but I don't crucify racists personally, no matter how abhorrent I find them. I was raised in country Victoria and was very much a racist, because that was the values and beliefs of the community I lived in. It wasn't until I moved on in my own life and had the chance to learn and grow and was lucky enough to be exposed to indigenous people and their culture, that I even realised how inherently racist my own views were.

For someone like Walker raised in Broken Hill, it would have been on a scale ten-fold. I'd say it would be remarkable if he wasn't a racist and it certainly doesn't shock me that he would need more educating than most.

Some good points TBR.

I was brought up in Caulfield and went to a grammar school, my father was in his 40s when he had me (I'm now near 50), we are very much conditioned by our environment and i hate to say it but i was also quite racist as a young bloke (without really knowing). I moved to Asia for 20 years in my late 20s and only just last year returned to Australia, my views and growth have changed considerably (thankfully), i have an Asian wife and two kids and we couldn't be happier. We still have some cultural differences but having lived in her world for many years i understand most of that thinking, there's no right or wrong necessarily, just differences, which makes the world interesting.

Not just living in China and other parts of Asia but also the amount of travel i was required to do with work exposes you to so many different cultures and you start to realize that its a fantastic world out there and that how you have previously thought really opens up and not only becoming more accepting but you realize how fantastic many cultures are and that things aren't as definitive as you may have thought as a young bloke growing up.

Its a big topic but i am also really optimistic that as a society on this topic we are going in the right direction, unfortunately this takes a long time as it takes somewhat generational change.
 
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Brodders17

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I don't think he abused him, think he made a comment to someone else about him, which was overheard and reported by an official.

Indefensible stuff but I don't crucify racists personally, no matter how abhorrent I find them. I was raised in country Victoria and was very much a racist, because that was the values and beliefs of the community I lived in. It wasn't until I moved on in my own life and had the chance to learn and grow and was lucky enough to be exposed to indigenous people and their culture, that I even realised how inherently racist my own views were.

For someone like Walker raised in Broken Hill, it would have been on a scale ten-fold. I'd say it would be remarkable if he wasn't a racist and it certainly doesn't shock me that he would need more educating than most.
You are correct!!
"Taylor Walker of the Adelaide Crows, who was not playing in the match, made a racist comment regarding North Adelaide player, Robbie Young, to an Adelaide Crows teammate who was playing," the AFL said in its statement.

As for the rest, you are correct, but Taylor is 30+, and has been living in Adelaide, playing with the likes of Eddie Betts and others for nearly 15 years, and was in a position of leadership for years. He would have been given all sorts of "education" etc, You could probably question his intelligence, but i would still struggle to say he is a good bloke, based on that evidence.
 
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momentai

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You are correct!!
"Taylor Walker of the Adelaide Crows, who was not playing in the match, made a racist comment regarding North Adelaide player, Robbie Young, to an Adelaide Crows teammate who was playing," the AFL said in its statement.

As for the rest, you are correct, but Taylor is 30+, and has been living in Adelaide, playing with the likes of Eddie Betts and others for nearly 15 years, and was in a position of leadership for years. He would have been given all sorts of "education" etc, You could probably question his intelligence, but i would still struggle to say he is a good bloke, based on that evidence..
Agree with this.
Racism is just wrong and should always be met.
That doesn’t mean we must always confront but rather when we don’t confront.. (And wisely choose ‘Good afternoon Tex’), that we remain aware of the issues and don’t give up ground.

The Young and the old; Students and teachers; Parents and children; and Employers and employees.

I have worked overseas and been in racial minorities, over a period of some 35 years. Have loved that time and the absolute joy of it and wouldn’t change too much.
But imo racism is at the base of much that we as a society do wrong to each other across many levels, and we should aim to recognise and damn it, whenever and wherever.
 
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