Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

[Eddie from Elwood]

As always you could go through a game and pick numerous decisions to complain about.
My 3 gripes- Dusty getting pinged for holding the ball when he tries to create play, while Carlton players continually deliberately walked into tackles cuddling the ball,making no attempt to get rid of it. I reckon Hewiit did that about 8 times for 8 ball ups.

And then Carlton kicked the ball about 5 mtrs 10 times and got paid a mark, we did it a few times too. Then suddenly a kick to Vlastuin in our forward 50 is call too short. That is another rule the umps pluck out occasionally.

And my 3rd was the deliberate against Taranto. It went sideways off his shin while he was begin tackled. Ridiculous. But then players, from both teams are allowed to walk the ball over the line all night. Again, like the holding the ball, it is clearly a direction given to umpires, but it leads to players who do intentionally take the ball over getting away with it, while others, with no intention to go near the boundary line are pinged.

Dusty getting pinged for holding the ball when he tries to create play, while Carlton players continually deliberately walked into tackles cuddling the ball,making no attempt to get rid of it. I reckon Hewiit did that about 8 times for 8 ball ups.

The one that bothers me is Dusty get pinged for the fend off....fair enough, it's prior. Last night there were as many instances where a Carlton player would spin into the tackle and be brought down, by the rules, that is also prior as you are attempting to evade. What happened to the trumpeted B Scott "harder on the HTB" call from last year?

 

[MD Jazz]

we need to learn this in the appropriate moment. There was a classic 1 on 2 in our forward line where the Carlton player took the ball and just ran into the tackle and then pretended to hand pass it. Ball up. I don’t like the feel of it but that is the rule. No prior is a ball up.

Weitering did it. It was like a league surrender tackle. He chose to proceed into the tackle. He could have tapped the ball, he could have tried to get a quick kick away but he knew what he was doing.

Silvagni walked the ball over the line without being touched in the last qtr - nothing.

Dusty was out of bounds for one free he got pinged for.

 

[tigertim]

Yeah, it looked to me it was pretty clear Carlton have practiced the “absorb the tackle” and maybe have taken it to new lengths by:
tackling the tackler,
holding the ball in tight and out of sight of the ump,
just simply dropping the ball
and there were a couple of occasions where they simply held on to the ball with one hand and just looked at the umpire as though to say ”there’s nothing I can do” (except maybe dropping the ball from your one hand on to your foot and kicking it……)

 

[MD Jazz]

Yeah, it looked to me it was pretty clear Carlton have practiced the “absorb the tackle” and maybe have taken it to new lengths by:
tackling the tackler,
holding the ball in tight and out of sight of the ump,
just simply dropping the ball
and there were a couple of occasions where they simply held on to the ball with one hand and just looked at the umpire as though to say ”there’s nothing I can do” (except maybe dropping the ball from your one hand on to your foot and kicking it……)

How about the one in our forward line, Mansell was tackled and the ball went out the back. He was still trying to crawl out of the tackle with 3 Carlton players on the ball tackling each other. There was no tiger there in the tackle and the ump called a ball up. Flogs..

 

[Sintiger]

extra ump working a treat

We're getting shafted 25% more

This is incorrect. An increase from 3 to 4 is 33.33% more.

Check your facts eZy

 

[spook]

It was Jack Graham. I was up swearing at the ump after that call.

Carlton player clearly drops the ball backwards between his legs then falls forward and Graham goes down with him.

There was clearly two events with the dropping of the ball happening before the called push in the back

Adam 'Collapses' Cerra. Crumples Jr.

 

[mrposhman]

Miller got a 2 handed push in the back at the top of the square. It appeared clearly a push in the back in real time, then they showed a replay on the screen. 4 umpires, astounding none of them saw it.

No joke, they then paid the most minor push in the back (might have been to us) about 10m outside of 50 on the boundary line. Thanks flogs. How about you see the more important 1 at the top of the square.

There was definitely a block by Weitering in the last, he held Lynch out of the contest (they had a 2 on 1) at the top of the square and McGovern took the mark, but Weitering held Lynch out of the contest without having any will to go to it, hence it wasn't a marking contest between Lynch and Weitering and should have been paid for either a hold or a block.

Stole this image off someone on BF for the last one.

Whats a block again? Weitering no attempt to play the ball (you can see from his legs where he is), but making sure Lynch can't get to the mark.

 

[larabee]

Stole this image off someone on BF for the last one.

Whats a block again? Weitering no attempt to play the ball (you can see from his legs where he is), but making sure Lynch can't get to the mark.

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They should have an extra umpire to keep an eye on stuff like that...

 

[tigertim]

They should have an extra umpire to keep an eye on stuff like that...

Yep, a 5th umpire!

 

[tigertim]

Stole this image off someone on BF for the last one.

Whats a block again? Weitering no attempt to play the ball (you can see from his legs where he is), but making sure Lynch can't get to the mark.

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Yeah, Tom appealed to the ump for a blocking free.

 

[Sintiger]

Stole this image off someone on BF for the last one.

Whats a block again? Weitering no attempt to play the ball (you can see from his legs where he is), but making sure Lynch can't get to the mark.

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That’s a free kick, no doubt at all.
However It is almost never paid

 

[artball]

Did anyone hear on the TV

Player took a mark. One grab.

And after about 3-4 seconds,

Extra umpire offers proximal umpire the advice

'Blow the whistle'

The extra ump really came into its own

nice

 

[TigerMasochist]

Yeah, it looked to me it was pretty clear Carlton have practiced the “absorb the tackle” and maybe have taken it to new lengths by:
tackling the tackler,
holding the ball in tight and out of sight of the ump,
just simply dropping the ball
and there were a couple of occasions where they simply held on to the ball with one hand and just looked at the umpire as though to say ”there’s nothing I can do” (except maybe dropping the ball from your one hand on to your foot and kicking it……)

Yep. Lock the ball in n absorb the tackle = ball up every time. Unfortunately most of our blokes still try to dispose of the ball to keep our forward motion at all costs game operating, but if the disposal's not clean we get pinged over n over. Better off to adopt the absorb n reset mantra that most other clubs do.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Worst offence from our blokes is constantly trying to *smile* with the maggots n conceding pathetic 50 metre penalties. Lead to another two easy goals to Carlscum for nothing more than petulant stupidity.
We've been getting hammered by the maggots for years n it costs us plenty in momentum n wasted hard work while every club just sits back n collects from us.
Yet our coaching dept brushes it off as inconsequential, there's playing hard n aggressive and then there's sheer bloody minded stupidity.

 

[tigermouseau]

That is the problem…. It is almost never paid. When umpires are instructed to only pay the obvious free kicks cos they don’t want EVERY free kick paid (slows down the game) the game is flawed and the result IS controlled by the umpires. Only when ALL free kicks are paid will it be a level playing field. The AFL should trial paying all free kicks -I wonder if the blocking and holding and arm chopping would naturally disappear or at least be reduced. At the moment the players know what they can and cannot get away with but if they knew EVERY free kick would be paid would it change the way the game is played or would it become a technicality nightmare. Would it make it any lease frustrating to watch than it already is?

 

[TigerMad]

And to just rub salt into the wound, he then paid 50 against Prestia for complaining about it.

Even saltier.
With the 50 penalty and 9 seconds left, Carlton attempts to go coast to coast in final play of the quarter.
Saad has a long range shot from 60, Nankervis is back, but not deep enough, runs back by himself, tried to kill the ball by punching, but misses, Broad running past Nankervis by himself, cant get there in time, balls rolls through for a point.

Sirens sounds for half time.

Very handy point.

Horrible deja vu after last year.

 

[larabee]

Yep, a 5th umpire!

Exactly. I thought the 4th was brought in to try to stop scragging, holding, blocking etc but apparently it was only to keep a close eye on Dusty fending off in a tackle.

 

[mrposhman]

That’s a free kick, no doubt at all.
However It is almost never paid

Wasn't that the justification for the 4th umpire. They are calling 2 of them as being umpires that mainly patrol the 50m arcs, in order to stamp out this sort of tactic.

 

[eZyT]

Even saltier.
With the 50 penalty and 9 seconds left, Carlton attempts to go coast to coast in final play of the quarter.
Saad has a long range shot from 60, Nankervis is back, but not deep enough, runs back by himself, tried to kill the ball by punching, but misses, Broad running past Nankervis by himself, cant get there in time, balls rolls through for a point.

Sirens sounds for half time.

Very handy point.

Horrible deja vu after last year.

Yes really sloppy defence i noticed also

 

[TigerForce]

Wasn't that the justification for the 4th umpire. They are calling 2 of them as being umpires that mainly patrol the 50m arcs, in order to stamp out this sort of tactic.