2008 Season - Where must we finish for Wallace to keep his job

[DragicevicFan]

Ladder placing in 2008 will mean nothing to me too.

So you'd be happy with back to back spoons?

You're kidding yourself.

If Terry has 3.5 wins for the season in '08, he will not be coach in '09.

If we won 3.5 games again, it would be disappointing, but probably not a bad result for us moving forward.

2008 is all about gametime and experience for Connors, Edwards, Thursfield, Hughes, Casserley, Peterson, Riewoldt and Co.

Wins and ladder position are not important to me in 08. Improvement in the kids is.

 

[Tigers of Old]

If we won 3.5 games again, it would be disappointing, but probably not a bad result for us moving forward.

2008 is all about gametime and experience for Connors, Edwards, Thursfield, Hughes, Casserley, Peterson, Riewoldt and Co.

Wins and ladder position are not important to me in 08. Improvement in the kids is.

I would have said the same this year but Thursfield and Foley aside there's been little to get genuinely enthused about. Ffor every one of those players you mention(mostly unproven), there's a Raines, Meyer, JON, Hughes, Schulz, Howat etc. who have stagnated or gone backwards this year.
As has been said already today our kids are not exceptional.

 

[DragicevicFan]

If we won 3.5 games again, it would be disappointing, but probably not a bad result for us moving forward.

2008 is all about gametime and experience for Connors, Edwards, Thursfield, Hughes, Casserley, Peterson, Riewoldt and Co.

Wins and ladder position are not important to me in 08. Improvement in the kids is.

I would have said the same this year but Thursfield and Foley aside there's been little to get genuinely enthused about. Ffor every one of those players you mention(mostly unproven), there's a Raines, Meyer, JON, Hughes, Schulz, Howat etc. who have stagnated or gone backwards this year.
As has been said already today our kids are not exceptional.

No doubt most of them are unproven, which is why 2008 should be used to find out if these guys are going to make the grade. If they dont, move them on and replace them with the next batch of youngsters.

As for these guys who are stagnating, or in some cases going backwards, we need to start making some tough decisions.

 

[IanG]

I would have said the same this year but Thursfield and Foley aside there's been little to get genuinely enthused about. Ffor every one of those players you mention(mostly unproven), there's a Raines, Meyer, JON, Hughes, Schulz, Howat etc. who have stagnated or gone backwards this year.
As has been said already today our kids are not exceptional.

Improvement rarely follows a straight line. I'd be confident that Raines can improve again, and I think Hughes and JON still deserve chances.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Improvement rarely follows a straight line.

Certainly hasn't in our case. How are those improvement graphs going?

"Sometimes you can look like you are going backwards...' :spin

 

[Zoso]

Ladder placing in 2008 will mean nothing to me too.

Spoken like a true Tiger supporter!!!

 

[craig]

Bottom or even bottom 3 is fine as long as such results are not achieved by a similar list.

I mean if the Tiges have another year as they did this year with 8-9 different players (youngsters then Wallet should see out his term.

If Wallet only changes 5 - 6 odd players and keeps P Bowden, Moore, Tivva, Hyde, etc and the side finishes bottom 2 ish then Wallace should and will be sacked come round 16-18.

The list is pathetic and needs another 12 - 14 changes minimum over next 2 seasons.

 

[ssstone]

Ladder placing in 2008 will mean nothing to me too.

So you'd be happy with back to back spoons?

You're kidding yourself.

If Terry has 3.5 wins for the season in '08, he will not be coach in '09.

if terry only has 3.5 by round 15 in2008 i am sure that he would be gone by rd 16.wallace will want to spin his well tanned ass off next year if we fail to fire as the media will be on him from rd 1.when sportsbet releases their odds on the first coach to be sacked in 08 i think terry will be unbackable,especially with "sheeds our great saviour " waiting in the wings.

 

[Ghost Who Walks]

Wallace will be gone by mid season.

I see us floundering around the bottom 3 rungs of the ladder.

The bright sunny future predicted by all when Wallace was appointed will be seen to be an illusion.

Frawley gets plenty of flak for his failures and so should Wallace; Graham, Kinsley and Knobel quick fixes where/are very short sighted.

 

[Freezer]

As long as the club continue to be a going concern, he should keep his job until the end of his contract..

 

[Elmer]

Wallace will be gone by mid season.

I see us floundering around the bottom 3 rungs of the ladder.

The bright sunny future predicted by all when Wallace was appointed will be seen to be an illusion.

Frawley gets plenty of flak for his failures and so should Wallace; Graham, Kinsley and Knobel quick fixes where/are very short sighted.

Knobel wasn't a quick fix. He got injured.

 

[Ghost Who Walks]

Knobel was a stop gap measure, look at his stats at the Saints.

Even when fit he was not setting the world alight.

According to pro-stats he had a career high of 16 disposals [Vs Carlton 2004] & 38 hitouts [Vs Brisbane 2004].

 

[Ronny Branton]

Didn't we already do this thread about two weeks ago?

Every thread was done two weeks ago.

liked that - good point!

 

[Ronny Branton]

Wallace will be gone by mid season.

Absolute rubbish.
Like it or not - he will be there for the next two years.
FWIW - I like it.

 

[ZeroGame]

Well from the talk suggested here he may only get 4 years

Do you think Wallace has so far done a good job of rebuilding the list?

Given what he's had to work with, yes I do
People are making judgement calls far too early, we won't know for another 4 years, the fact is he's turning over the list and will continue to do so.

The rebuild is far from over, so let's let him finish the job
We've constantly pulled the plug half way through a rebuild, it's why our club has been down for so long, how about we finish it properly for the first time in the last quarter of a century

 

[Azza]

Do you think Wallace has so far done a good job of rebuilding the list?[/quote]
Given what he's had to work with, yes I do
People are making judgement calls far too early, we won't know for another 4 years, the fact is he's turning over the list and will continue to do so.

The rebuild is far from over, so let's let him finish the job
We've constantly pulled the plug half way through a rebuild, it's why our club has been down for so long, how about we finish it properly for the first time in the last quarter of a century
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I'm not convinced on Wallace so far, but if we wnat him to keep developiong youngsters rather than looking for quick fixes like Kingsley we have to guarrantee him his time.

 

[Ghost of Punt Road]

It might be a good thing we failed this year, it guarantees we will keep re-building and not pull up too soon.

No happy none-the-less