2022 Draft Thread

[year of the tiger]

I remember when we kept drafting smalls - George, Butler, Baker, Higgins and there were others and I kept getting frustrated that we weren’t all in for a KPP to support Jack.

Everyone on here kept saying one of our biggest needs was developing forwards of quality and I was in full agreement.

Well, since then I no longer get worked up about the tigers trading and drafting - cause I have absolutely no clue to what the club is up too.

Lynch and 3 flags later does that to you.

But, I still really enjoy the discussion these threads provide and it’s good we all have different views as I have given up reading with passion the media take on footy.

 

[K3]

Just thinking on our drafting two WA'ers. Could this decision have been affected by WA staying more open during the 'Covid year's, therefore giving players greater opportunity to keep performing, unlike those in Vic et.al. who had massively impacted years?

 

[DuD_Delist]

We shall see, I can't be wrong until the season concludes, I think if Collingwood finishes above us & Mitchell is top 5 B&F then going for the bargain bin was the right call. if Collingwood stumbles & Mitchell becomes a liability then happy to stand corrected. The benefit with this strategy is a clean out can be facilitated as early as next year, having a couple of 7 year deals seems like a millstone in a worst case scenario. I clearly don't want to see that happening but I am well aware a few injuries here and there could put a dampener on things.

Just on our rookies, good picks, happy with those guys, textbook drafting for the bargain bin, I personally would have taken Verrall as well, not sure about Narkle, I think for the mid season draft you allow for a LTI, happens most years.

Personally i think we did our best work in last years draft and TT & Hopper are icing on that cake.
With alot of experience departing over the past and future year i think getting both was the ideal approach.

 

[tigerdell]

Looking at the choice of Taranto or Hopper or both, it's worth remembering that Prestia and Dusty will be gone or veterans by 2025.
Cotch will be gone.
Any short term replacement such as Mitchell would be gone.

Without both T and H, in 2025 our midfield batting roster is very short

With one its middle of the pack.
Any mids drafted this year and next aren't starting mids in 2025.

With both we have a solid pack

 

[bullus_hit]

Personally i think we did our best work in last years draft and TT & Hopper are icing on that cake.
With alot of experience departing over the past and future year i think getting both was the ideal approach.

Probs one key forward short.

Looking at the choice of Taranto or Hopper or both, it's worth remembering that Prestia and Dusty will be gone or veterans by 2025.
Cotch will be gone.
Any short term replacement such as Mitchell would be gone.

Without both T and H, in 2025 our midfield batting roster is very short

With one its middle of the pack.
Any mids drafted this year and next aren't starting mids in 2025.

With both we have a solid pack

Mitchell is still only 29, I think there's 2-3 years of competitive football remaining. If we take Hewett there's one mid ticked off, next year's pick also an ace up the sleeve. Could go for a mid or a tall forward, will have to wait on that call.

 

[Scoop]

To win flags in 23-24, the trade period gets an "A". If one of the two drafteed players play a significant role over the next two years it's A+.

I'd rather plan to get another flag and be 14th in 2025 (that's the worse case) than be 8th, 8th, 9th, and in no man's land.

We pushed the chips in. We have a plan. To win flags now. That's all I want.

 

[spook]

To win flags in 23-24, the trade period gets an "A". If one of the two draftees players a significant role over the next two years it's A+.

I'd rather plan to get another flag and be 14th in 2025 (that's the worse case) than be 8th, 8th, 9th, and in no man's land.

We pushed the chips in. We have a plan. To win flags now. That's all I want.

100%. Mitchell and Hewett would have been no man's land.

 

[daniel30]

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[TigerPort]

Now we are talking.

Miller mark 2

Slow burn. Exactly what the rookie spots are for.

 

[bullus_hit]

To win flags in 23-24, the trade period gets an "A". If one of the two draftees players a significant role over the next two years it's A+.

I'd rather plan to get another flag and be 14th in 2025 (that's the worse case) than be 8th, 8th, 9th, and in no man's land.

We pushed the chips in. We have a plan. To win flags now. That's all I want.

Can't see that logic, if Mitchell bombs you move him out, can't do that with two 7 year deals, Hewett probably reaches Taranto standard in his third year, those two seem comparable on quite a few levels. The premiership tilt has it's highest probability next year, from that point on it's the law of diminishing returns & the draft approach becomes more viable. What you are also forgetting is the tall timber being stockpiled, these seeds can be cultivated in 4 years time, there may even be some chance of squeezing in another tall next year.

I fully accept that Mitchell & Hewett doesn't fully equate to Taranto & Hopper in 2023, I've slightly weakened our hand in the short term but I've significantly improved our chances of bouncing back harder & faster when all the retirements start rolling in. You could say I'm having an each way bet, fair enough, but my focus isn't just next year, it's the next 5 years. One thing I've taken from the Jackson era was the need to take a tall every year, eventually the numbers game starts yielding results, Clake has been ok, he's got Gibcus, Balta, & Miller, he has shown a good eye for the most part but he still needs to prove himself in the key forward stakes. That will ultimately dictate whether he is the equal of Jackson or more of a flanker specialist. Jury still out for the moment.

 

[mrposhman]

Can't see that logic, if Mitchell bombs you move him out, can't do that with two 7 year deals, Hewett probably reaches Taranto standard in his third year, those two seem comparable on quite a few levels. The premiership tilt has it's highest probability next year, from that point on it's the law of diminishing returns & the draft approach becomes more viable. What you are also forgetting is the tall timber being stockpiled, these seeds can be cultivated in 4 years time, there may even be some chance of squeezing in another tall next year.

I fully accept that Mitchell & Hewett doesn't fully equate to Taranto & Hopper in 2023, I've slightly weakened our hand in the short term but I've significantly improved our chances of bouncing back harder & faster when all the retirements start rolling in. You could say I'm having an each way bet, fair enough, but my focus isn't just next year, it's the next 5 years. One thing I've taken from the Jackson era was the need to take a tall every year, eventually the numbers game starts yielding results, Clake has been ok, he's got Gibcus, Balta, & Miller, he has shown a good eye for the most part but he still needs to prove himself in the key forward stakes. That will ultimately dictate whether he is the equal of Jackson or more of a flanker specialist. Jury still out for the moment.

Remove slightly weakened our hand, to significantly. You simply cannot expect Hewett to come in and get anywhere near the level that we should get from Taranto / Hopper for at least 3 years. He's not Sam Walsh!!

We are all looking at the next 5 years. Taranto is 24 and Hopper 25, we aren't offering 7 year deals to 30 year olds here.

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Personally i think we made the right call with acquiring both Taranto & Hopper both for the now and future

Both these guys will give us 7-8 years of football (yes 8 years seems a bit much but thats in Taranto case as quality mids can play until 33/34 as we have seen with many quality champs and these 2 look like they will be)

We have drafted 8 young kids the last 2 drafts and they will need time and some wont make it but having players like both T and H
provides on and off field cover and leadership whilst keeping Richmond in a flag window.

Only things missing from a list situation is 2 x KPF but im thinking we are working on that
Thats why i personally like the Harry Himmelberg idea and if we could get him as a free agent then it instantly pushes out our window to 4-5 years and allows time to draft our own as no trade will be required

 

[bullus_hit]

Remove slightly weakened our hand, to significantly. You simply cannot expect Hewett to come in and get anywhere near the level that we should get from Taranto / Hopper for at least 3 years. He's not Sam Walsh!!

We are all looking at the next 5 years. Taranto is 24 and Hopper 25, we aren't offering 7 year deals to 30 year olds here.

I think Tom Mitchell will provide significant ball winning ability in the short term, the proof will be in the pudding & Collingwood's eventual standing will tell a tale, for better or worse. Hewett catches Taranto/Hopper in year 3 but I also expect him to play senior footy next season, he's one player I'd have as a potential Rising Star.

 

[mrposhman]

I think Tom Mitchell will provide significant ball winning ability in the short term, the proof will be in the pudding & Collingwood's eventual standing will tell a tale, for better or worse. Hewett catches Taranto/Hopper in year 3 but I also expect him to play senior footy next season, he's one player I'd have as a potential Rising Star.

Of course he will play senior footy, he has been drafted by the team that finished 17th. Big difference getting senior footy at West Coast next year compared to going for top 4 with the Tigers. Hewett MAY catch Taranto / Hopper by year 3 (remember they are former picks 2 and 7) vs a current pick 13, so he may not reach their ability ever.

 

[bullus_hit]

Of course he will play senior footy, he has been drafted by the team that finished 17th. Big difference getting senior footy at West Coast next year compared to going for top 4 with the Tigers. Hewett MAY catch Taranto / Hopper by year 3 (remember they are former picks 2 and 7) vs a current pick 13, so he may not reach their ability ever.

And there's also a chance Hopper never reaches his pre-knee injury heights, that is also something that needs to be factored into the equation, Taranto also needs to lift a gear and provide more scoreboard influence.

 

[Scoop]

Can't see that logic, if Mitchell bombs you move him out, can't do that with two 7 year deals,

So if Mitchell bombs you move him on in the end of 23 how? You are stuck with the contract for 2 years. Not that easy.

Either way you've spent draft capital and cap space to get him. The odds of Hopper or Taranton bombing before Mitchell who is much older are very small.

Hewett probably reaches Taranto standard in his third year, those two seem comparable on quite a few levels.

Massive assumption. A pick 14, after three seasons, will equal the output of a pick 2 with 9 seasons. How you can bank that is beyond me Bully.

I fully accept that Mitchell & Hewett doesn't fully equate to Taranto & Hopper in 2023, I've slightly weakened our hand in the short term but I've significantly improved our chances of bouncing back harder & faster when all the retirements start rolling in. You could say I'm having an each way bet, fair enough, but my focus isn't just next year, it's the next 5 years.

You are going each way. We are in win-now mode, we are looking 1-3 years ahead. The competition is aging, Geelong just won the flag with the oldest side in history. We aren't close to that. Your strategy is impacted by where you are on the premiership clock, and how close you are to winning it. Your strategy doesn't cater to that principle. Can't see how your strategy gets us to a flag in 2023.

100%. Mitchell and Hewett would have been no man's land.

Yep, tend to agree. We've been bold but not reckless.

 

[Scoop]

And there's also a chance Hopper never reaches his pre-knee injury heights, that is also something that needs to be factored into the equation, Taranto also needs to lift a gear and provide more scoreboard influence.

But a bloke who is turning 30, missed an entire year with a horrific leg injury and has never kicked more than 15 goals in a season is a better option on the same money?

 

[daniel30]

Any one know much about the kid Kaelan Bradtke ?.

 

[Redford]

Any one know much about the kid Kaelan Bradtke ?.

My friend is a coach at Corowa - where he’s from. He says:

Great kid. Has really come on under German this year. Athletic freak. But not in the top dozen or so players in the O&M. Will take 2 or 3 years to be a genuine and consistent AFL player, in his opinion.

 

[Scoop]

Wasn't sure where to put this article, so here it is.

Ex-Cat Quinton Narkle in line for a potential AFL chance.​

MITCH KEATING
EDITOR | DECEMBER 1, 2022 -

Delisted Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle is reportedly set to secure a train and trial gig at Richmond across the course of the coming off-season.

Narkle was axed by the Cats just days after the club's premiership win over Sydney, with the Maddington product among five players cut by the Kardinia Park club.

The list call saw an end to the 24-year-old's time in Geelong, which spanned 41 games and five seasons.

Narkle's management has already revealed there has been some level of interest in the fringe midfielder since he departed Geelong, however Narkle was overlooked at this week's National and Rookie drafts after being among close to 900 nominees for the off-season intake.

According to The West Australian, Narkle is set to receive a training invite to join Richmond's AFL program for the coming months.

AFL clubs are able to invite players to join their pre-season plans ahead of and during the Supplemental Selection Period, which is set to run from January next through to March.

MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - MAY 29: Quinton Narkle (L) (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

The Tigers flipped their midfield this year, with premiership stalwarts Kane Lambert and Shane Edwards announcing their retirement from the game, while the likes of Riley Collier-Dawkins and Will Martyn were not offered new deals.

Richmond acquired GWS pair Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper through the trade period in what was an aggressive double coup for the Tigers.

Narkle could add to the new-look midfield ensemble at Punt Road should he impress across the summer.

I don't mind this, we would be looking at Narkle as a backup. It would be almost the identical role he had at Geelong. Would fill the spot we hoped Dow, RCD and Martyn would've have.