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2024 Phantom Draft

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Western Bulldogs
20 Joe Berry
29 Luke Trainor
35 Alex Dodson
47 Phoenix Hargave

Pretty happy. We got the best small forward/mid, the best key defender and the best ruck in the draft, and added a promising mid.
Berry will slot straight into the half forward line, and will pretty quickly add a bit speed around the midfield.

Trainor was the best tall defender in the draft, and will fill a gap in class down back.

At 35 we couldnt go past Dodson. He can spend the next 4 years slowly developing and will be ready to take over from English when the times comes.

Hargrave was the best available midfielder, and will add to our depth in the area.

Going into the draft we were hoping to add more mids, but the quality pure mids pretty quickly thin out after the top 10 or so. Still we got quality and we filled positions of need.
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Fremantle:

17 - Taj Hotton
32 - Jack Ough
61 - Bailey McKenzie

Freo suffered a little from being just behind West Coast in the order so missed out on a couple of the best WA talents in Allan & Davis. The other that was available, Gerryn, really wasn’t a list need. So instead they went for some Victorians, all of whom could be anything (or nothing). Hotton is well worth the (injury) risk at this range and Ough could shape as one of the bargains of this draft. McKenzie is quite inconsistent, kicking some big bags, but also having some games where he was barely sighted. His chances may depend on if he grows a bit, 192cm is a bit of an inbetween size.

Overall a pretty good draft for a team that traded out significant capital during trade week.
 
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Essendon are thrilled with this draft and have selected the players that will take us to our next finals loss.
We wanted to get kids who already had full lives and had achieved great things, because we believe that will stand them in good stead as they suffer crushing disappointment just being selected by the EFC.
We looked for good sports who can shake off a defeat and lavgh with their opposition. The future looks bright with this draft crop, who werent even in nappies when essendon were any good.

Kako. No idea but he really will go to the bombers. Hope he changes his mind and finds something more fulfilling in life.


Charlie Nicholls - big fast tall forward. Lot of key attributes and a lot of development ahead. One of those talls that will prosper in a pro club. Sadly he,s at arsendon. Will partner well with Caddy.

Hugh Boxshall - good sized onballer. Best mid at thhs stage of the draft. Good runner. Will be a good link/support mid

Clancy Dennis - key back who will be the backline general. Competitor.
And underated here

We are also taking the opportunity to rookie 2 young kids who have confirmed that they dont want to play footy in September.
Tom Gillett is a ruck and a smooth mover. He's a Lions academy but they're too full with ashcroft and marshall.
And Nash King, a running midfielder. Played Metro. Gets plenty of it. Still to fill out and will become a solid depth midfielder
 
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Maybe i'll let others grade Carltons picks - I tried to tank it as much as i could

#4 - Sid Draper
#38 - Angus Clarke
#40 - Ben Camporeale
#62 - Sam Toner
#99 - Lucas Camporeale
 
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Norfs very nearly bid on Jayden “George” Nguyen, @tigerdell. The Shinboned could really do with that kind of energy.

He’s a lunatic. I love his madness.
 
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With a dearth of flair and an oversupply of "vanilla" players, the Aints are after class and got that in Reid (8), & Lindsay (9).

Gerreyn (33) will be the perfect foil for Marshall, he can genuinely play both ruck & forward and fits a need. Given hes a big body that is sorted from the start, the greatest hurdle will be working on his tank which will come with time.

Davidson at (45) some have criticised, I think he has the tools to make it at the next level immediately, great tank, good hands, balance, and a good kick at vfl level. Kicks goals and will be a wingman at afl level.

Cole (46) we see as a modern Mal Michael archetype. A strong and old school shut down full back, fits a need and may not take long before he dips his toe into the highest level.

Rome Burgoyne is apparently not set to join his brother at Port as a father son, if not we're wrapped to nab him. The Aints believe he has all the tools and while his development is lagging as was his older brother Jase, we see that as no barrier long term. A slow burn but its hoped he will be a long term player.
 
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I'm still working my board. I've settled on my top 5 and that's the quintet I had a few months ago. But I had to reconsider it.

Draper, Lombard, Ashcroft, Lalor, FOS. Then a gap. I'll sort this five out. Then the next five. Lalor is the one I can't place yet.

In my keeper league I will take Langford if I can because categories. That's why I do form. But eh.

Meanwhile the real draft is on. I'll keep doing form.
 
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Essendon are thrilled with this draft and have selected the players that will take us to our next finals loss.
We wanted to get kids who already had full lives and had achieved great things, because we believe that will stand them in good stead as they suffer crushing disappointment just being selected by the EFC.
We looked for good sports who can shake off a defeat and lavgh with their opposition. The future looks bright with this draft crop, who werent even in nappies when essendon were any good.

Kako. No idea but he really will go to the bombers. Hope he changes his mind and finds something more fulfilling in life.


Charlie Nicholls - big fast tall forward. Lot of key attributes and a lot of development ahead. One of those talls that will prosper in a pro club. Sadly he,s at arsendon. Will partner well with Caddy.

Hugh Boxshall - good sized onballer. Best mid at thhs stage of the draft. Good runner. Will be a good link/support mid

Clancy Dennis - key back who will be the backline general. Competitor.
And underated here

We are also taking the opportunity to rookie 2 young kids who have confirmed that they dont want to play footy in September.
Tom Gillett is a ruck and a smooth mover. He's a Lions academy but they're too full with ashcroft and marshall.
And Nash King, a running midfielder. Played Metro. Gets plenty of it. Still to fill out and will become a solid depth midfielder

Loved the post, but you've actually picked really well there. Need more tanking of picks.

If we slid back from those picks that will end up in the late 20's and nab Nicholls and Boxshall and add a whole bunch of 2nds next year I'd be happy with those 2. Add in a few others like Gerryn, Sims, Unwin, Hayes and any of that group I'd be happy to have slid back for and then bought up a lot of draft capital for next year.
 
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Loved the post, but you've actually picked really well there. Need more tanking of picks.

If we slid back from those picks that will end up in the late 20's and nab Nicholls and Boxshall and add a whole bunch of 2nds next year I'd be happy with those 2. Add in a few others like Gerryn, Sims, Unwin, Hayes and any of that group I'd be happy to have slid back for and then bought up a lot of draft capital for next year.
Agreed. Seems likely to be good value 25-35/40
 
Melbourne

6. Jagga Smith (3)
10. Alix Tauru (10)
66. Charlie West (50)

That's a pretty good haul, it's not headline grabbing like Richmond's but there's some chance those three become AFL regulars. Charlie West is now a Magpie, that's a really good fit as they tend to share the load evenly. Smith at Carlton will do very well, they now have ridiculous depth in the midfield. Tauru off to the Saints, he could be anything, I think he will be the type who brings people through the turnstiles.
 
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Western Bulldogs
20 Joe Berry- 15 (Port)
29 Luke Trainor- 21- (Rich)
35 Alex Dodson - 53 (Saints)
47 Phoenix Hargave- N/A

Not too bad, but time will tell.
 
Collingwood

49. Mraz (35)
51. Charleson (Rookie)
57, Kennedy (62)
60. Ivisic (Rookie)

Very very happy. Got all 4 late picks from 49-60 through onto a club, and got Mraz 14 spots cheaper.

All of these guys are on my list of smokies that weren't getting much attention.
 
So because Kinnear Beatson has frankly *smile* the last few drafts up. They recruited me and I'm pretty happy with what I've managed to deliver.

Sydney with a relatively young list, with only 13 players over the age of 26 right now, they have a bit they can play with.

#22 - Matt Whitlock
#26 - Harrison Oliver
#41 - Will Hayes
#55 - Rhys Unwin

- Sydneys tall defenders are frankly rubbish, so were happy to be able to grab Matt Whitlock at 22.
- With Jake Lloyd now 31, it was a no brainer to replace him with Harrison Oliver. Tough, committed and a lovely kick, is almost an ideal like for like replaceemnt
- Will Hayes a bit more of a risk, but Sydney could do with a bit more run on the wings and Hayes is a nice kick. Added bonus point is we are hoping to confuse the hell out of BT with both Will Hayward, and Will Hayes in the same team
- Rhys Unwin is a great option as a small forward. Dumped off that dud Beatson's Jacob Konstanty, and replaced him with another version of that little *smile* Tom Papley. Goal sense, speed, evasiveness, everything you want. Maybe doesn't have the same "chirpiness" and "prickiness" as Papley, but he has to learn something from him. Can also pinch hit very well in the midfield. 11 clearances against that stacked Sandy Dragons midfield in the Coates GF another string to his bow.

Reckon I'll replace Beatson permanently after this draft

I still reckon I picked better than Beatson

#22 - Matt Whitlock (27) - The "Super" trade
#26 - Harrison Oliver (19)
#41 - Will Hayes (56)
#55 - Rhys Unwin (61)

Much prefer those picks to

#22 - Jesse Datoli - I like this pick
#26 - Ned Bowman
#41 - Riley Bice
#55 - Riak Andrew

Arse about, went tall late instead of earlier. Oh and I wouldn't have relisted that dud Francis as a rookie.
 
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Eagles, Bo Allan and Hamish Davis. Eagles pick, Bo Allan and Hamish Davis, they read the assignment. Follow @spook .
 
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Melbourne

6. Jagga Smith (3)
10. Alix Tauru (10)
66. Charlie West (50)

That's a pretty good haul, it's not headline grabbing like Richmond's but there's some chance those three become AFL regulars. Charlie West is now a Magpie, that's a really good fit as they tend to share the load evenly. Smith at Carlton will do very well, they now have ridiculous depth in the midfield. Tauru off to the Saints, he could be anything, I think he will be the type who brings people through the turnstiles.
Charlie West is a good player in a major position of need at Collingwood. He's under rated IMO. Tall enough, skills are okay but he's strong, very quick, athletic, and has played footy on all 3 lines, including regularly pinch hitting in the ruck at school and club level (such is his stregth, leap and competitieness). He actually debuted for his school in first 18's in the Ruck as a Year 10. Really good kid too.
 
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Charlie West is a good player in a major position of need at Collingwood. He's under rated IMO. Tall enough, skills are okay but he's strong, very quick, athletic, and has played footy on all 3 lines, including regularly pinch hitting in the ruck at school and club level (such is his stregth, leap and competitieness). He actually debuted for his school in first 18's in the Ruck as a Year 10. Really good kid too.
His contested marking is A grade, I reckon if he grows 3cm to 198cm then he becomes a legitimate ruck option. His leap is excellent and like you said, he's a real competitor. I think Collingwood did really well given their weak draft hand, just goes to show the exceptional depth of this year's crop.
 
His contested marking is A grade, I reckon if he grows 3cm to 198cm then he becomes a legitimate ruck option. His leap is excellent and like you said, he's a real competitor. I think Collingwood did really well given their weak draft hand, just goes to show the exceptional depth of this year's crop.
Agree with all that but he won't grow any more. He's been that height for 3 years. Was a very early developer.
 
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I dont really understand how transitioning from u18's, skipping a grade, to senior state league,

and contributing consistently and demonstrably (small forward; 2 tackles and 1.5 goals/game n=5)

is stagnation?

or do you mean stagnation in the manner of a fairly fast flowing river?

its academic; west coast take him and I expect the kid makes the grade as much as I expected Darcy Jones would.
WCE have taken him as a rookie. Good luck to the kid!
 
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I still reckon I picked better than Beatson

#22 - Matt Whitlock (27) - The "Super" trade
#26 - Harrison Oliver (19)
#41 - Will Hayes (56)
#55 - Rhys Unwin (61)

Much prefer those picks to

#22 - Jesse Datoli - I like this pick
#26 - Ned Bowman
#41 - Riley Bice
#55 - Riak Andrew

Arse about, went tall late instead of earlier. Oh and I wouldn't have relisted that dud Francis as a rookie.
Yeah Id prefer the first set of picks.
The swans didnt really go as expected, questionable talls at both ends esp in the GF and they pick a mixed bag. Notably Riak Andrew is only 193 so is more a Rampe replacement than a key back (Rampe plays undersized mostly but is best as 3rd def)