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4 Umpires for NAB Cup

Phantom said:
The AFL is the world's last great bastion of Socialism.

It will now pay 4 people to do what 1 used to do for less.  >:(

Phanto - You forgot Cuba & Nth Korea

Back on topic - One umpire couldn't get a decision right, two umpires weren't up to it, three umpires can't keep up with the speed of the game.. So now 4 umpires are the answer...

What did every mother say "If you play with it too much........"
 
I don't think it goes far enough. What we need to work toward is the day when every player on the ground has his own personal umpire. The way it's going we won't even need the players.
 
Personally I am happy to see 4 in the context of the NAB, if it means that the Baker style of tagging is going to be umpired out of the game.

Chaff, Hyde, Cogs, Johno, Tucky, Gas, Kellaway and I hope Schulz, Hartigen and White all possess some tagging ability but we don't have a Baker type so lets say good bye to that. :hihi
 
stupid decision. more umpires more inconsistancy. i'm happy with 4 umps, but only 3 on the ground at the same time and rotate through the match. they should also be relieved of voting for the brownlow medal.
 
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They used 4 umpires in a game with Richmond and Brisbane last year and no one noticed! Not even the players apparently!

I think this was in the pre-season at Carlscum park. Don't quote me though.


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There will soon be more umpires than players on the ground. ;D

If they are going to pedantically watch for holding and scragging I expect Richo to get a lot more free kicks from now on.
 
Mixed reaction to fourth umpire
6:05:58 PM Tue 5 April, 2005
Scott Spits, Samantha Lane and Jennifer Witham
Sportal for afl.com.au
An AFL proposal to introduce a fourth field umpire for matches has drawn mixed reactions from AFL coaches.

The league trialed four umpires in pre-season match between Richmond and Brisbane, and AFL director of umpiring Jeff Gieschen confirmed to The Age on Tuesday that further trials are likely to take place during the 2006 pre-season, with the prospect of four field umpires officiating in premiership matches next year.

But Carlton coach Denis Pagan said too rule many changes are being made to the game.

"I don't know where we're going. Why do we want to keep changing the game and the rules? We'll end up with something completely foreign to what we had 25 years ago," Pagan said on Tuesday.

"OK, there are some rules (changes) that have been beneficial but there's too many people on that rule committee, too many people trying to get in on the act."

Melbourne coach Neale Daniher threw his support behind the proposal which is still in the embryonic stage.

"I'm not against it," Daniher said of the idea of four umpires.

"Obviously we're conscious, being a less-financial club, about what costs to the game and where does the money come from for an additional umpire, but if you take the cost out of it, I've got no problems having a look at it next year in the Wizard Cup."

Terry Wallace was coaching Richmond when the four field umpires were trialled in the Wizard Regional Challenge Series match against the Lions at Optus Oval.

"I wouldn't have known that the extra one was out there. So it was really how they dealt with it and how they handled it more so than us," Wallace said

"You didn't get a feel for the ground being more cluttered by people or anything like that. So from my area of observation I thought it worked really quite well on that particular occasion."

"All of us, all we want is for the decisions to be correct - if it's there to assist correct decisions, well, I'm all for it. If it's just another umpire out there who will be making decisions from similar areas of the ground to what we've got now, I wouldn't be for it."

The new Tigers coach said some umpires could officiate matches on both a Friday night and a Sunday match during the same round - an idea he has advocated in the past.

"Once upon a time perhaps they might not have been able to do it because of the workload on game day. But the workload has decreased because of the numbers of umpires. If it went to four you would expect that their workload would decrease a little bit again which would probably allow them to step up and be able to do that," observed Wallace.

When asked if there were enough umpires in the talent pool to justify a move to four field umpires, Pagan said: "I don’t take any notice of who's umpiring. I can honestly say that I don't take any notice.

"Everyone makes mistakes. And sometimes journalists do, too. Everyone who's involved in the game makes a blue and I don't think it's worth worrying about. If the game went for three minutes, we might focus on one decision, mightn't we?"


http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=matchdetails&spg=display&articleid=194281
 
Taggers on notice with fourth ump (Herald Sun)

A FOURTH field umpire will be used in this month's NAB Cup to highlight illegal tagging at stoppages.

At a Telstra Dome launch yesterday to announce National Australia Bank's sponsorship of the pre-season competition, AFL chief Andrew Demetriou announced the introduction of four field umpires for the series, which begins in three weeks.

Two umpires will line up in the centre square, one to bounce the ball and the other to spot players intent on blocking or scragging their opponents.

Illegal tagging has been hotly debated in recent seasons, prompting the AFL Rules Committee to try and find a remedy.

"The AFL Commission approved some rule changes over summer including instructing umpires to actively police tagging, blocking and any contact at marking contests not directly aimed at winning the ball," Demetriou said.


"We have been looking at ways to trial something that gives our three umpires more assistance and allows one umpire to scrutinise stoppages.

"The NAB Cup is a vehicle to trial such things and while at this stage we have no plans to introduce it at home-and-away level next season, it will be closely monitored."

Recent pre-season innovations such as kicking the ball into play before the goal umpires have waved their flags and taking a free kick or mark in the goal square from directly in front have been adopted for use during the regular season.

The NAB sponsorship of the pre-season competition is worth $700,000, with $220,000 for the winner.

Money will also trickle down to grassroots clubs.

NAB chief executive officer Ahmed Fahour said yesterday his organisation was keen to promote football at both AusKick level and in country areas.

"We want to reconnect with communities in Australia and we can do that by ways such as offering $1000 for every super-goal kicked in the NAB Cup, with that money going back to the player's junior club," Fahour said.

"For instance, if Brett Deledio kicks four NAB super-goals in the series, the Kyabram Junior Football Club will receive $4000 (a super-goal, kicked from outside 50m, results in nine points)."

Deledio welcomed the move, claiming he and Richmond teammate and fellow "Ky" boy Kayne Pettifer would be under pressure from their home town to send through several nine-pointers.

This time last year Deledio was preparing for his first pre-season game.

"I was that excited I wanted to be all serious, but just couldn't help having a big smile across my face as we ran out," Deledio said.

"I had no real expectations of what was going to happen but I'm a lot smarter now in how to work with my body. My weight was 83kg this time last year and now it's 88kg. I want to get to 90kg.

"Last year I aimed to play 10 or 12 games but (coach) Terry (Wallace) came to me mid-year and said let's go for 22.

"I wasn't going to say no to him and I ended up playing in the International Rules Series because physically I felt fine.

"My advice to the boys making their debut this year is don't get over-awed, just go out there like it's a practice match."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18024252%255E20322,00.html

- If the 4th umpire purely polices off the ball incidents, it may be a useful addition and stamp out some illegal and ugly off the ball practices.

- Also great to read that Deledio has put on some real size in the off season. I wonder how much effect this will have on his speed?