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5 year plan
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rosy said:I can't believe the anger directed at the RFC this week. I'm sometimes told I set myself up to be hurt by having faith we'll go well each year, but I'm not the one who's angrily spewing vitriol with every post.
Depressed, gutted, disappointed, hanging out for a better performance next week? Guilty to all charges.
I wonder if people are making too much of all the spin. We've heard heaps about the "5 year plan" and we've heard all summer how our players are having their best pre-season ever and are ready to step up. I don't take that much notice of any of those things. It's the club's duty to put a positive spin on the club and good on them. I'd hate the club to publicly eat their own like supporters have been known to do.
I don't know if Terry is the messiah some claim but I don't have any great reason to doubt it either. Time will tell how successful he is. I've heard heaps about our new game plan and our change of direction towards speed and skill but I haven't seen enough to be convinced yet. Doesn't mean I won't though, there are a lot of bad habits it will take time to get rid of first.
I wouldn't have a clue if our kids will make it or not but I'll support them and hope. I'll also have faith in the selectors who hopefully know better than me.
Is GM the best thing since sliced bread? Dunno, as with Terry it's early to judge results and time will tell.
We still get flogged, our debt increased, our membership hasn't had any dramatic rise. We are coming from a low point and I'm glad the leaders of our club, such as SW, TW and GM, recognise that and are trying to improve things.
There's a long season ahead and it's more important than ever that we all work in the same direction. A united club will achieve far more and I've certainly tried in my small way to bring club and supporters together more than has been the case in recent years.
If we didn't get flogged last weekend none of this hatred and bitterness would be happening this week. What a difference one result can make.
I can't help feeling we'll have a different attitude and more hope at the end of round 22 than we do after round 1. I hope so because it hurts to see such hatred directed towards the club I love.
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Rosy, i share your thoughts exactly. The biggest problem with this football club is the stigma that's been attached to it for the last 25 years. Of failure, of sacking coaches, of bloodletting, of mutinies, etc etc and this will take a fair while to get rid of. We've been unmatched in the area of failure over the last 2 decades. We sack coaches and we get bagged, we give guys like frawley and wallace 5 years to do the job and we still get bagged. It's something we must live with until SOMEONE, and I hope it's wallace, finally puts together some talented, committed footballers who can return us to the success we've been starved of over an entire generation.
I don't care what anyone one says but as long as you have mediocrity on the field you are pretty much guaranteed to have it off field as well, whether it be lower membership, poor finances, sackings, board challenges. Start having some success and the fickle ones return and plough their dough into the club whilst riding the wave of success. Stkilda is a classic example. Just look at their membership and merchandising numbers and they haven't won anything...yet.
We have learnt some valuable lessons in recruitment over the last 10 years and even last year, I'm not so sure we were articulate in the types of players we recuited with our important picks, excluding deledio of course. I look at players like Kade Simpson who showed signs very early and think to myself, how does a guy like this slip thru the net? I continually get frustrated with out inability to spot decent talent and bring in players who can't do the basics like hit a target.
I don't believe in a second that we are a 115pt worse side than the bulldogs but they are certainly way in front of us in most aspects on the field. Their leaders are true leaders, they are committed, the play for each other, they back each other up, and the young guys have stood up. I look at Brad Johnson and I cannot find a more committed, professional player in the competition. Similarly for Scott West and Rohan Smith. They stand up and be counted when it matters. Our senior players can learn a lot from them.
Make no bones about it, 5 years+ is what it will take to get some sort of success back into this club and that's if we start NOW!!!
Have not forgotten about King at all and think he has been fantastic for the club, hes enthusiasim has been amazing but Colbert is totally different type of person plus he finished hes career as a key defensive player but early in his career played all over the place,he would bring a real stealyness to the club with his no *smile* approach a consumate professionaliitb said:
Tigers of Old said:
Game 23 out of a minimum of 110. I think people are expecting too much too soon. Yes it was a shocker, but even the best have very bad games during a season. Wallace, I assume, is looking to see who fits into his game plan for the next few years and who doesn't. This doesn't happen overnight or even in the first few seasons. The reason this 5 year plan is different to other plans at the club in the past is that previous coaches didn't have the luxury of a guaranteed term (Frawley aside, in that he was inexperienced). The others were basically coaching and drafting for short term success, worrying about getting the flick.
If we play like this, say, midway through next year then I'll be worried. In the meantime, yes, I get upset with bad games but I'm prepared to put up with it and look at the long term.
I've been supporting Richmond since the earliest I can remember (1965) and have never ever wished otherwise. We are currently in a long, miserable and protracted slump which by all appearances is going to continue for a little while longer.
Most of us thought during the preseason that we were finally going to turn it all around and were brimming with optimism and hope. Friday Night hits us like the sniping knee of that mongrel dog Aaron Hamill and what happens, plenty of vicious recriminations and vilification from Eggberts who just want to vent their spleen.
All I wish to say is looking back over my Richmond life I have witnessed many floggings and debacles, these even happened during our Premiership years. What was particularly bad with this one was that it was Round 1.
That's all it means to me, we were flogged in Round 1, one game out of a season. There's another 23 rounds to go this year before the finals, whether we miss them again or not.
For me in 2006 at this earliest of stages, I hope Terry and the boys can lift and give us something to cheer about for the rest of the year. I'm proud to be a life-long Tiger and I'll get over this loss, probably a lot quicker than some.
Terry's 5 year plan is a drop in the bucket for me and I wish him all the best.
Most of us thought during the preseason that we were finally going to turn it all around and were brimming with optimism and hope. Friday Night hits us like the sniping knee of that mongrel dog Aaron Hamill and what happens, plenty of vicious recriminations and vilification from Eggberts who just want to vent their spleen.
All I wish to say is looking back over my Richmond life I have witnessed many floggings and debacles, these even happened during our Premiership years. What was particularly bad with this one was that it was Round 1.
That's all it means to me, we were flogged in Round 1, one game out of a season. There's another 23 rounds to go this year before the finals, whether we miss them again or not.
For me in 2006 at this earliest of stages, I hope Terry and the boys can lift and give us something to cheer about for the rest of the year. I'm proud to be a life-long Tiger and I'll get over this loss, probably a lot quicker than some.
Terry's 5 year plan is a drop in the bucket for me and I wish him all the best.
Five year plan, yep I agree but under no circumstances will I accept Friday's lack of effort, lack of passion and lack of desire. Yes we are rebuilding, yes we are slow, yes we are unskillfully. Understand and accept all those facts they are areas that can be changed. But the crap that was dished up Friday nite is unacceptable and should not be sugar coated as part of the process, results are not the point it's attitude and improvement. Neither of these factors were shown on Friday. I will never not be a Tiger but that doesn't I have to tolerate that.
Having said that once I understood how bad we were on Friday it was great to watch the bullies style of football and hope that one day we can do that.
Having said that once I understood how bad we were on Friday it was great to watch the bullies style of football and hope that one day we can do that.
I can tolerate [just] being beaten if my team has had a "red hot go". What really gives me the you know whats is when my team looks like it really doesn't give a stuff. That is what has annoyed people so much about last weeks effort.
I would hope by the end of the fourth year we are pushing for a place in the eight. What I dont want to see is our team fluke our way to the finals, then be content with the list & think we will play finals forever more.
I hope this year is more a year of consolidation for up & coming youngsters, as well as a chance for senior players to stake a claim for their spot for future years.
Nobody was happy with our teams capitulation last Friday night & can only hope thats the last one we see for the coming years.
I have said on previous threads that I expect the Tigers to go backwards this season, since we have mainly recruited kids that are not likely to not take to much of a part in this season. Also looking at a tougher draw this season compared with last year. All I would like to see this season is 100% effort & fight until the final siren goes, if that means we dont win a lot of games this season then so be it. I just want to see the Tigers playing finals on a consistent basis like the Essendon of the late eightys through to the early 2000's. With hopefully some silverware in the trophy cabinet along the way.
I hope this year is more a year of consolidation for up & coming youngsters, as well as a chance for senior players to stake a claim for their spot for future years.
Nobody was happy with our teams capitulation last Friday night & can only hope thats the last one we see for the coming years.
I have said on previous threads that I expect the Tigers to go backwards this season, since we have mainly recruited kids that are not likely to not take to much of a part in this season. Also looking at a tougher draw this season compared with last year. All I would like to see this season is 100% effort & fight until the final siren goes, if that means we dont win a lot of games this season then so be it. I just want to see the Tigers playing finals on a consistent basis like the Essendon of the late eightys through to the early 2000's. With hopefully some silverware in the trophy cabinet along the way.