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A look at Sheedy's List Management Legacy at Essendon

SCOOP said:
The Eagles model has had long term success. Just copy it and stop trying to outsmart the rest of the pack.
It's not complicated ,is it
 
evo said:
SCOOP said:
The Eagles model has had long term success. Just copy it and stop trying to outsmart the rest of the pack.
It's not complicated ,is it

Just keep it simple is the key Evo.....

We just keep trying to take shortcuts.
 
Phantom said:
Don't forget that having big tall men in defense are just as important.

Why not try Patto there for rest of season, good for his development and he would do no worse then whats down there.

Im sick of see resting ruckman (Everitt ) killing us why wouldnt they put Patto back there.
 
hellenictiger said:
Sheedy has consistantly made finals teams and grand finals teams in his 27 years as a coach. He isnt a coach that uses a theory on re-building...pick Sheedy's next grand final team. Who would think his list would even be in the 8 as we speak?

Funny you ask that.

Quite a few years ago, when the Armadale Bowling Club were still in Armadale, we had the great fortune to have Sheed's speaking to a group of merely 40 or so of us. Maybe 1997 or 1998.
Towards the end of the evening he was asked about his plans for a future Essendon premiership.

We were amazed when he wiped the blackboard clean and started laying out who from his current squad were & weren't going to be there, and leaving blanks where he felt that he didn't have a player on the list who could fill a particular position. You could see that 2 or 3 years before the window, he'd already worked out what he needed for the next premiership.

What really hit me was that Somerville was his first ruckman at the time, yet his name wasn't on the board. Somerville never made it to that next GF. As I recall, there were a couple of vacant positions in the back half that he had to fill too.

It was a great insight into Sheed's thought processes. Made me realise how much Sheed's football thinking, learned in the golden era at Tigerland, had influenced my football thinking as well.

As I've said many times before, it's almost as if when Sheedy left Tigerland, it's spirit got up and left with him. (If you believe Nth American Indian Shamanism!)
 
Phantom said:
hellenictiger said:
Sheedy has consistantly made finals teams and grand finals teams in his 27 years as a coach. He isnt a coach that uses a theory on re-building...pick Sheedy's next grand final team. Who would think his list would even be in the 8 as we speak?

Funny you ask that.

Quite a few years ago, when the Armadale Bowling Club were still in Armadale, we had the great fortune to have Sheed's speaking to a group of merely 40 or so of us. Maybe 1997 or 1998.
Towards the end of the evening he was asked about his plans for a future Essendon premiership.

We were amazed when he wiped the blackboard clean and started laying out who from his current squad were & weren't going to be there, and leaving blanks where he felt that he didn't have a player on the list who could fill a particular position. You could see that 2 or 3 years before the window, he'd already worked out what he needed for the next premiership window.

What really hit me was that Somerville was his first ruckman at the time, yet his name wasn't on the board. Somerville never made it to that next GF. As I recall, there were a couple of vacant positions in the back half that he had to fill too.

It was a great insight into Sheed's thought processes. Made me realise how much Sheed's football thinking, learned in the golden era at Tigerland, had influenced my football thinking as well.

As I've said many times before, it's almost as if when Sheedy left Tigerland, it's spirit got up and left with him. (If you believe Nth American Indian Shamanism!)

Great stuff Phantom. Interesting to note that old fashioned football thinking and common sense still has a place in modern football.

Can draw some parallels with Steve Jobs and the Apple Computer Corp.
 
evo said:
SCOOP said:
The Eagles model has had long term success. Just copy it and stop trying to outsmart the rest of the pack.
It's not complicated ,is it

Now if only we could find the 40,000 members and huge corporate support that comes with being the first team in Western Australia we would have the money to pay for following the WC model and keep ahead of the pack. :hihi
 
Tigers of Old said:
Liverpool said:
Teams over the last 10-15 years who have won flags all have had a big forward....Q.Lynch, Hall, A.Lynch, Lloyd, Carey, etc.
Even though the game has changed and it is more a running type game, when finals come around and the pressure is on, the game does change back to more of an arm-wrestle, where you need some tough players and someone who can take a contested mark under pressure and bang some goals through.

I think the plan is to should be to have a resting ruckman play forward (Pattison, Simmonds) to give us that extra size up front.

Perhaps a setup like:

HF: Petiffer Pattison/Simmonds Riewoldt/Hughes

F: Brown Schulz/Richardson Edwards
I disagree oldie. i belive a genuine chf genuine ff and third tall option is the way to go. again look at wce in the main they play lynch ff hansen chf and staker who is 195cm as a third tall option. cox drifts forward in his ruck role and is rested by seaby from the bench. their back half is shored up with glass at fb graham at chb and huter as a third tall utility capable of going forward when needed. they have brown sphanger mackenzie as juniors already in their system developing quite nicely thank you.throw in schofield and thompsonalong with older blokes like jones spaaanderman and wilkes they have most bases covered.
this coming draft im certain they will target a young ruckman and a quality crumbing forward but probably only after they have taken best player available with their first pick.