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caesar

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Would love to see their books & see where all the money has gone.
Just heard on SEN that The AFL Players Association, (which is a Union), received $37 million from the AFL to run o_O whereas as every other union fees are paid for by its members.
 
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22nd Man

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And he'd be on far more than MOST of the players.
Isn't the AVERAGE pay for AFL players around the $250/300k mark. If so the vast majority of players would be on les than $200k. Rookies are on much much less.
Think it's widely accepted that Gil is on more than any player. And is Been said he is the only administrator of a major sport who earns more than the best player.
 

22nd Man

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Just heard on SEN that The AFL Players Association, (which is a Union), received $37 million from the AFL to run o_O whereas as every other union fees are paid for by its members.
That's about 46,000 per player... No one would pay that in dues. Where does it all go? Is some of it for post footy programs etc?
 

amc11

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Don't know but here is article and what former AFL CEO Wayne Jackson said:

From the article
“I just think that the players have far too much influence at the present time and again I hope the current climate that we’re experiencing might bring some balance back into that.”

Interesting comment considering that without the players there will be no game even when the lock-downs are over.

“It might be welfare offices, it might be medicos, I read with interest that they’re looking to get some advice on the coronavirus issue. Why the AFLPA needs to be involved in that, I don’t know.”

Maybe because it's members are involved with a body contact sport!

I'm a bit puzzled as to why certain areas in the media seem to be really pushing the players into scapegoats - it makes me wonder what the real agenda is because when something is being pushed down our throats it's usually to distract us from something else.
 
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zippadeee

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Everything happening today is becuase of the AFL's disregard in Saving.
Pissing money into clubs that 90% of the public wouldn't give a rats ass clacker about.
Pissing away money on players like Hunt & Folau.
Continuing pouring money into a club that has been a failure since it entered to the comp.
Trying to convince other countries about the game.
Having AFL programs outside of the country.
Allowing clubs to spend millions on coaches and sports scientists.

The AFL should've had money to ride out this storm.
100000 people x say $60= 6,000 000 that's what the AFL would get from one game
How could they possibly be struggling.
 
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The Big Richo

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Just heard on SEN that The AFL Players Association, (which is a Union), received $37 million from the AFL to run o_O whereas as every other union fees are paid for by its members.
I think that would have something to do with the fund for former players more than the actual running of the AFLPA.

Don't forget the AFL purchased Marvel not long ago, that would have used up a big chunk of spare cash.
 

Baloo

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AFLPA is a necessary evil though. The AFL's drafting/trading rules wouldn't stand up in court if challenged. To keep the peace they need the players to accept their freedom of employment is curtailed, but that doesn't come for free.
 
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tigerman

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I'm ok with the players wanting to see what happens after 31/05, they have agreed to a 50% pay cut until then.
I would like to think that they will be reasonable in their negotiations if the game looks like being delayed further.
Why hasn't there been much talk about the $120 million that the AFL has got squirrelled away in their future fund.
As Zip A Dee (Doo Da Doo Da) :cool: said, the AFL needs to cut back on the money that they waste.
 

caesar

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I'm ok with the players wanting to see what happens after 31/05, they have agreed to a 50% pay cut until then.
I would like to think that they will be reasonable in their negotiations if the game looks like being delayed further.
Why hasn't there been much talk about the $120 million that the AFL has got squirrelled away in their future fund.
As Zip A Dee (Doo Da Doo Da) :cool: said, the AFL needs to cut back on the money that they waste.
$120 million is nothing when you have a potential billion dollar problem, we will be lucky to have a future
 

tigerman

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$120 million is nothing when you have a potential billion dollar problem, we will be lucky to have a future
Fair enough.

There has to compromise on both sides, but I'm ok with what the players have agreed to up to 31/05. I'm sure they are working on something that is fair for everyone. I think it's unfair to expect them rush into massive pay cuts, because there a lot of different pay situations, front loaded and back loaded contracts, 1st year players etc.

The AFL and the players will have a better idea of what looks like happening once we get to 31/05. I can't see why they can't have scenario A, B, C etc in place for what they will do when they know what is going to happen.

I still maintain that the AFL has been wasting money. I understand they are trying to develop the game. But the Suns were never going to work on the Gold Coast. NRL struggles there(have hand handouts), soccer, basketball and baseball all failed there.
The AFL bailed out the Suns to the tune of close to $30 million in 2017 and again in 2019. I'd like to know what the total spend has been on since their inception. It was never going to work.
 

tigerman

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There will be no season. Get on with it.
You may be right.
I just can't see why they need to be rushed into making big decisions. What's wrong with giving them a little bit of time to work out different scenarios. They can make agreements for several situations that may or may not occur.
 
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MD Jazz

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Nobody knows what gil makes. The AFL doesn't have shareholders or voters, so opacity all the way. I'm amazed at the apparent total lack of contingency. Billion dollar operation broke as soon as it hits rough waters. Negligent
Not sure anyone would have forseen a cancelled season? Do they produce an annual report etc?
 

tigersnake

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Sep 10, 2003
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Not sure anyone would have forseen a cancelled season? Do they produce an annual report etc?
They should have plans for worst case scenarios. I'm not saying they should have had enough to sail through unscathed, some severe belt tightening would always have been required, but this is negligent. As for afl accountability, they aren't, they make a show of it but aren't. Like a mini FIFA. Huge revenues, but effectively untouchable.