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Alex Rance

kiwitiger

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My bulldog supporting brother in law , always says , he shouldve been father son for the dogs, his dad Murray didnt quite play enough games........I didnt know any better ,

Just read page 1 and an article there says his dad played 40 for the dogs and 57 for the eagles , pretty funny really, nowhere near father son material for the dogs
 

CarnTheTiges

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Yeah, just reckon we need one more tall back with Rance going, he was around 195 too wasn't he?

DS
Close. 194. Grimes is listed as 193 I think, and Broad is 192. I agree that another big guy would be useful. I hope Balta can be developed into the role.
 

Tigaman

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I don't think either the club or Balta himself knows his best position yet. Hopefully we will find out in 2020
Yeah I would back Bolter to replace Rance as he appears to have that free spirit which Rance displayed from day one. Bolter very green at the moment but give him a permanent role down back he will mature quite quickly.
 

BrisTiger24

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Yeah I would back Bolter to replace Rance as he appears to have that free spirit which Rance displayed from day one. Bolter very green at the moment but give him a permanent role down back he will mature quite quickly.
The thing that Rance had early that Balta doesn't have is an innate ability to read the play and intercept
 
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RoarEmotion

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The thing that Rance had early that Balta doesn't have is an innate ability to read the play and intercept
He’s not Rance (no one is or will be) but Pretty sure I can recall a couple of super intercepts in Adelaide leaving his man and streaming up the middle of the ground to set up or kick goals.
 
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Rfc4Ever

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Although having a high level defensive instinct is invaluable, do you all recall the Benny Hill-esque theatrics in our back 50 when we had Rance learning defence with Luke McGuane?

Those times prove that you can LEARN how to defend.

Rance turned into the AFL's best defender in around 3 years of perseverance under the guidance of an experienced defensive coach.

We still have Leppa in our coaching team and I am confident that one of our talls such as Balta can step up if required.

Rance had the tools to succeed, I believe Balta especially, has them too.
 
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CarnTheTiges

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One thing Balta would have that Alex didn’t early days was a settled, tight, experienced defensive unit that know their job and do it better than any other in the comp.
 
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Coburgtiger

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It's interesting, I look at Balta vs Rance at the same point, and I see it this way.

Extremely similar athletically, but Balta has slight edge in height, speed, agility and leap.

The big differences physically are Rance's endurance, but Balta has a big weapon Rance never had in his long kicking.

Those two differences actually make them very different players. Rance could cover an entire backline, whereas Balta can give you burst running and can clear lines.

That said, there's no reason Balta couldn't play back, and do so to an elite level, he'd just be different.

All of this doesn't matter really though, because the biggest factor for success is always mental. One thing Rance had, which I believe is what made him the backline GOAT, was a selfless, fearless determination to win. And not just the game. He needed to win every tussle. Every bump. Every leap. He played like making it to the next contest was life or death. He sprinted with every muscular fibre in his form, whether or not the spoil was possible, and by doing so, often made it so.

That's where the similarities end.

If I say Balta hasn't got that, it's no slight on him. I've never seen any player have that like Rance.

I remember when Rance fractured his entire face early in his career. At that point, he couldn't look at a footy without turning it over. He spent more time falling over in contests than halving them, let alone winning. But that mad dash through the middle of the ground ending in a sickening clash was the essence of Alex. Pure, sheer desperation. The warrior came later, but the will was there from the start.

Balta is a different beast. We get carried away with the physical similarities. I'm excited to see the player he'll become. But it won't be Rance.
 
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TigerForce

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All of this doesn't matter really though, because the biggest factor for success is always mental. One thing Rance had, which I believe is what made him the backline GOAT, was a selfless, fearless determination to win. And not just the game. He needed to win every tussle. Every bump. Every leap. He played like making it to the next contest was life or death. He sprinted with every muscular fibre in his form, whether or not the spoil was possible, and by doing so, often made it so.

That's where the similarities end.

If I say Balta hasn't got that, it's no slight on him. I've never seen any player have that like Rance.

I remember when Rance fractured his entire face early in his career. At there point, he couldn't look at a footy without turning it over. He spent more time falling over in contests than having them let alone winning. But that mad dash through the middle of the ground ending in a sickening clash was the essence of Alex. Pure, sheer desperation. The warrior came later, but the will was there from the start.

Balta is a different beast. We get carried away with the physical similarities. I'm excited to see the player he'll become. But it won't be Rance.
Agree Coburg. We can't produce clones, but The Balt can develop his own successful style (ala Dusty)
 

graystar1

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All of this is interesting reading.

Remember though we won the 2019 premiership without Rance.

For me, it is not about who replaces him but rather who comes into the team as it stands, yesterday, Sept. 2019?

The only player, no great loss imho, is Ellis. In the wings we have players like Higgins, Ross, Balta and a heap of others who are already for promotion.

What a great list we have right now.
 

Ice

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All of this is interesting reading.

Remember though we won the 2019 premiership without Rance.

For me, it is not about who replaces him but rather who comes into the team as it stands, yesterday, Sept. 2019?

The only player, no great loss imho, is Ellis. In the wings we have players like Higgins, Ross, Balta and a heap of others who are already for promotion.

What a great list we have right now.
if grimes, vlastuin and astbury are injury free again, no problem. would have been nice to have a bit more depth in the key defender/interceptor position
 
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eZyT

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It's just an arrogant wank word. Dominance is dominance. Premierships are premierships.
Try telling that to Ming.

I'm all for a dynasty.

I love supporting a dynastical outfit.

And The Dynasty will be televised

as far as I'm concerned, we are up to our necks in a dynasty-type situation,

and its only really getting going.
 
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Tigaman

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Try telling that to Ming.

I'm all for a dynasty.

I love supporting a dynastical outfit.

And The Dynasty will be televised

as far as I'm concerned, we are up to our necks in a dynasty-type situation,

and its only really getting going.
if grimes, vlastuin and astbury are injury free again, no problem. would have been nice to have a bit more depth in the key defender/interceptor position

Kmac no slouch down back so must come under scrutiny for a move back permantently.
 

King Kong

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The thing that Rance had early that Balta doesn't have is an innate ability to read the play and intercept
Rance was a liability in his first 3 years. Played a lot of Ressie's and was regularly smashed one on one. It was his acts of defensive desperation that started his rise and then Leppa's coaching that helped his one on one work.

Balta has the same athleticism but really needs that defensive mindset to ever get near Rance's level.

He has a long way to go but we need to give him 10-12 games in a row this season in defence to see if he can make it.
 
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eZyT

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Kmac no slouch down back so must come under scrutiny for a move back permantently.
I think Kmac is sooooooo 2017.

a hard working, tough, entirely team orientated, premiership

2nds player.

great for depth.
 
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TigerPort

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Rance was a liability in his first 3 years. Played a lot of Ressie's and was regularly smashed one on one. It was his acts of defensive desperation that started his rise and then Leppa's coaching that helped his one on one work.

Balta has the same athleticism but really needs that defensive mindset to ever get near Rance's level.

He has a long way to go but we need to give him 10-12 games in a row this season in defence to see if he can make it.
Rance played 44 AFL games out of a possible 66 in his first three years. So outside of any injuries he played twice as many top level games than 2nds
 
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