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Andrew Raines.....Straight back into the tream?

the claw said:
its interesting when debates like this happen. i always put up who i think needs to go for our club to move forward. the best we have done since 2001 is a ninth placed finish it would be nice to know from the defenders of players out there how many we need to turn over and who needs to go so we can take the next step, that is make the 8 and how many more and who to make the top 4 and become a regular high finisher to give us a decent crack at a gf.
surely everyone can see what window we have, if you want to call it that, is now. 6 30 yrolds 4 of them critical to any success that may come. any window that we have is now and that in itself is drawing a long bow. i would gladly argue that long term getting cousins can do more long term harm than good. for reasons that have been debated long and hard on this site.

anyway i digress all i am questioning/asking is what long term success can we expect without continuing to turn over and improve a substantial amount of players on our list.to many like raines and we will forever wallow in mediocrity. surely everyone can see we have to aim higher..

clearly after 50 games you se a 23 yo player in his 6th yr in raines as being good enough but surely theres players you dont think will be part of the premiership when it comes how many and who are they.surely and dont take it personally but surely no one is that naieve that they think we have the players to win a gf yet alone make top 4 consistently.

i think what you miss in this is that some players need time to mature and reach their potential. i think one of richmonds problems has been not having a stable team. Always chopping and changing.

Remember it was when this started happening (Barrett, Teasdale, Cloke, Raines, Wood, etc) change change change is what put us in this position in the first place. i'm glad they are sticking to their guns and building a team that will stick together, be mates and play for one another
 
the claw said:
good to hear that. i said its a side i would like to see. imo its a side with a view to the future
With McGuane as a certainty at CHB?


Staggered.... nay ,appalled!


Quite possibly your worst post ever claw. :(
 
sheesh on the subject of this thread he has to go never to be seen again. what a joke he kicks worse than most 6 yr olds. and turns it over more. one consolation hes not alone theres about 30 others on a par.
 
Disagree with ya claw, Raines is a gun and has bought the ball out of the back line so many times and saved our arses. His kicking may be a bit to be desired but this would be improved if we had a better gameplan. Another example of a quality player who is let down by the crap coaching of the RFC. He'd easily get a game at most other clubs.
 
Never seen a player get so much of the ball and stuff up nearly every kick.

Last week, I was with a group of the Essendon boys, cricket that is, and they happened to be talking about Raines. The inference of their comments is that he can't purposefully hit a target to save his life.

He showed that again last night.
 
Phantom said:
Never seen a player get so much of the ball and stuff up nearly every kick.

Last week, I was with a group of the Essendon boys, cricket that is, and they happened to be talking about Raines. The inference of their comments is that he can't purposefully hit a target to save his life.

He showed that again last night.

Agree. There are limits to how far the team can go when one of our highest possession winners and play makers from defense turns the ball over so much.

It's a shame because Raines is a natural at finding the ball and he has a solid build and good defensive side to his game.
 
Gets a lot of it. Has good run. I'm not sure if his poor disposal if a judgement error, poor skills, or because he tends to run himself into trouble for a 2nd or 3rd time before disposing it.

has come back better than I thought he would this year but unless he corrects his disposal I'm not sure he's a long term prospect for us.