Another bag to Jay Schulz

[Tigers of Old]

Jay's contributions thus far have been 6 goals against Brisbane, the Hawthorn screamer and the dropped mark, handpass, goal to Pettifer. All too little.

Thats unfair.
In 2003 he came in and played 5 games in his debut season, he kicked 4 goals out of 5 games so thats alright for a first year player.
In 2004, his second year he played in 16 games, 12 of which we lost and he kicked 10 goals. Including 6 against Brisbane, the best team in the AFL at that point. Thats alright for a 19 year old skinny kid in his second season where most games he played in were lost.
In 2005 he came out and played well in the wizard cup, he brakes his ankle and is missing for a long time. By them time he gets his match fitness back, he plays 2 games in round 9 and 10. He then goes back to coburg, hurts his ankle again and comes in and plays round 21 and 22. He played well in both those games and came back on after a very heavy knock.
Now 2006, he plays the first 2 games and then gets his collarbone dislocated/broken. His first game back from injury with coburg he kicks 6 goals, second one back he kicks 4, Today he kicked another 6.

Good on you Checkers.
You can add a Rising Star nomination to the 2004 season.

There's some hard markers here but there's no doubt expectations are there for Schulz to start performing and showing why the club has invested so heavily in him.
Hopefully the injuries that have hindered his progress are now behind him.
His form for the Burgers is extremely encouraging and hopefully some of that transcends to the senior side.
He doesn't have to set the world alight but he does have to keep improving and make a regular contribution.

Again my biggest concern is how he'll be used at the elite level.
Will he be stopgap or will the decision makers use him where his obvious strengths lie.

I guess all will be revealed soon enough.

 

[the claw]

Jay's contributions thus far have been 6 goals against Brisbane, the Hawthorn screamer and the dropped mark, handpass, goal to Pettifer. All too little.

The last three weeks at Coburg is the first time he has done anything to demand selection. Hope he does get selected and this is the turning point with history showing his horrible start was due to Frawley and injury in 2005.  

agree whole heartedly imo he has 10 weeks to show why he should be kept.

 

[checkside]

Jay's contributions thus far have been 6 goals against Brisbane, the Hawthorn screamer and the dropped mark, handpass, goal to Pettifer. All too little.

The last three weeks at Coburg is the first time he has done anything to demand selection. Hope he does get selected and this is the turning point with history showing his horrible start was due to Frawley and injury in 2005.

agree whole heartedly imo he has 10 weeks to show why he should be kept.

And a 2yr contract

 

[jayfox]

Claw's reaction to Jay is expected but he is even being overshadowed in negativity by Dill James. Schulz's start to his career has been unimpressive, however, he is now only just 21 and starting to show all the signs that he is ready to play some consistant AFL footy. He is a well built, highly skilled tall who takes a great grab.....but we've got plenty of those at the RFC so let's get rid of him just as he's showing signs that he may come good. :

 

[Hayfever]

Jay's contributions thus far have been 6 goals against Brisbane, the Hawthorn screamer and the dropped mark, handpass, goal to Pettifer. All too little.

The last three weeks at Coburg is the first time he has done anything to demand selection. Hope he does get selected and this is the turning point with history showing his horrible start was due to Frawley and injury in 2005.  

agree whole heartedly imo he has 10 weeks to show why he should be kept.

Harsh but true. The potential is there but he must show consistency, temperament and a fierce desire to succeed.

We all remember Brad Ottens.

 

[Brettstigers]

Look I will agree with the lot of you and say three good games means he deserves a spot, particularly given our current weaknesses. It is a pity it is Collingwood that he has to re-appear against. Their defence is propbably up their with Adelaides and is particularly potent against the talls in Clement and Prestagiacomo.

It will take Brown and Richo to be in the side and looking dangerous to shield Schulz from the best two defenders who would be expected you would think to otherwise give the him a bath. Yes he deserves a game but if you want him to debut and do well then you might want to wait a week till he is fully "match fit".

The moral of this story is, if he doesn't do as well as you would like - don't start flogging him because the pies have proven they are a tough nut to crack. Of course if he is down the back then he is, realistically, going to be in the thick of it.

 

[waitingfortonight]

I am a big fan of Jay's.

I would love him to play against Collingwood and the unlucky one to ommitt will have to Patto. Now before anyone starts the kid will be ok but we need goals not possessions. The kid struggled with his kicking which is something Jay is good at either forward or down back.

If Richo is fit? then he along with Jay, Brown, Tambling, Petts, maybe Deleido will form a potent set up to push Collingwood.

The unlucky ones may be Patto and Krak if injured. Staff may hold his spot as we need relief for Simmo unless Jay can do that which i doubt.

I know maybe it may be too top heavy. Depending on the conditions for Sunday i would play at least two talls.

We need to play at our best as we did against the Crows and the Cats if we are to push the Pies who are in terrific form.

Terry should study the tape at how the Dees beat them 2 weeks ago.

Cogs will be a huge loss.

So my ins would be: Richo, Jay,

Out: Patto, Krak?

I am worried about this game as we have suffered two 100 pt thrashings(both at the Dome).

We seem to play well at the G

Go tigers

 

[craig]

We need a forward that can present and take a grab, its time for Jay to be in the side.

His form demands inclusion and he will offer much more than Pattison against the pies.

Jay is in the position where he may well be able to become one of the most crucial players in the tigers structure and it is up to him to step up and show us he can play, because he is talented and can play, just would be nice if he could have a injury free run for an extended period.

Good luck Sarge

 

[Dyer'ere]

"He was excellent (on the weekend), he's probably been very good for two or three weeks, (but) he's a little bit underdone in relation to coming back from the shoulder injury," he said.

"I'm very much of the belief that if you can possibly bring them back through the VFL and play them for two or three weeks so they have almost have a mini-preseason, practice match series again, that's the best way.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=276506

This is Wallet's comment on the matter of his selection for the ones (or otherwise).

 

[WesternTiger]

"He was excellent (on the weekend), he's probably been very good for two or three weeks, (but) he's a little bit underdone in relation to coming back from the shoulder injury," he said.

"I'm very much of the belief that if you can possibly bring them back through the VFL and play them for two or three weeks so they have almost have a mini-preseason, practice match series again, that's the best way.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=276506

This is Wallet's comment on the matter of his selection for the ones (or otherwise).

Yeah Dyer Jay did say on the radio he is not fit enough to play CHF. Could only run a game out if he played deep

 

[Rayzorwire]

It will take Brown and Richo to be in the side and looking dangerous to shield Schulz from the best two defenders who would be expected you would think to otherwise give the him a bath.

On his 'dream day' against Brisbane he beat two rather highly rated defenders in Michael and Leppitsch Brett...the key will be supply, as it always is...when supply is pretty constant and mostly advantageous then any defender struggles. When supply is infrequent and either disadvantageous, 50/50 or kicked to pack marking situations, then the forward often struggles.

Prestigiacomo has copped plenty of hidings (onfield and in the media) when the Wobblers were down and out...now they're winning in the centre and doing really well at pressuring the opposition ball carrier, he's magically become a 'champion defender' again.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Could only run a game out if he played deep

Well blow me down. Stafford could only play deep too. :

TW gets a lot right but he's not infallible.
Prior to his bag of 6 last weekend, Sarge had 10 goals in two weeks at Coburg. Stafford had done JS for the 3 weeks prior.

Terry can give all the reasons in the world as to why Jay wasn't selected but he got this one wrong IMO.
Schulz should have played last week.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Stafford could ruck (albeit not too well), ToO.

If Knobel doesn't come up he might have to do it again.

And if Richo doesn't return, well that don't leave us much.

I'd certainly like to see the Sarge getting some cover in the packs.

 

[WesternTiger]

Could only run a game out if he played deep

Well blow me down. Stafford could only play deep too. :

TW gets a lot right but he's not infallible.
Prior to his bag of 6 last weekend, Sarge had 10 goals in two weeks at Coburg. Stafford had done JS for the 3 weeks prior.

Terry can give all the reasons in the world as to why Jay wasn't selected but he got this one wrong IMO.
Schulz should have played last week.

Don't get any arguments here ToO after I paid good money to go over and see the match.

You could also understand why I choked on my beer when I saw Krak run out with the team after it had in the Hun that morning that White was playing and Krak had been dropped