Another question

[waitingfortonight]

Can you please explain to me these two questions i have.

Ever since Terry arrived with the excitement of playing an attacking style and 16 goals a game we :

1) Why when we score a behind do we allow upto 3 easy possessions to the opposition, build a wall round the centre, centre half forward (opposing side) and continuously get killed (easy goals).
Is this something that is a directive of Terry, the players or both?
Why is it that Joel and others who kick out take soooo long and we get caught we turnovers or lately , this year we seem to just turn and handball it through for a behind.?

2) Why is it when we score a behind we dont seem to man up and allow easy possessions which has been called "coast to coast"?

When we man up, play one on one football and play our style, kicking it bloody long we seem a pretty exciting side.

This is sooo frustrating to see

I just continuously find myself yelling' man up"

Tell if i see it wrong or others see and are just as frustrated as myself

W F the next premiership

 

[mb64]

Intresting thread.Firstly the 16 a goal gameplan is missing in action & has been for most of the year.In respect to the kick ins, the opposition seems to catch us offguard & in a flash the ball is in the their forwardline.Our kick ins are the opposite & appears to be very stop start.I would imagine this is a big concern for TW.

 

[GoodOne]

Considering only 3 teams have averaged more than 100 points a game this year (and taking into account that these averages are bumped up by big wins), maybe that statement of 100 points a game is a bit wishful. Rather than concentrating on all out attack I would like to see the tigers improve in the tough areas such as tackling, shepherding, hardball gets, centre breakouts, hard runing and pressure. These are the aspects that create a premiership team. All out attack does not induce strong, accountable footy.

The biggest problem I see, is the current trend in footy not allow contested possession wherever possible. Unfortunately our skills arent at a level where we can master this type of play, and really we need to put more faith in our players to win the ball more often, instead of chipping backwards and sideways. At times this year Ive seen the Tigers play this very well, and attack at the opportune times, and it looked brilliant. However, too often we've gone back into our shells and gone way too defensive especially against teams where we were major underdogs.

In time, and with the building up of a stronger team list Im sure the confidence will limprove to play a much more attractive and rewarding style of play. Have already liked the way the Deledio's, Raines's, Polo's and Tambling's have taken on the opposition at times.

 

[shawry]

Considering only 3 teams have averaged more than 100 points a game this year (and taking into account that these averages are bumped up by big wins), maybe that statement of 100 points a game is a bit wishful.  Rather than concentrating on all out attack I would like to see the tigers improve in the tough areas such as tackling, shepherding, hardball gets, centre breakouts, hard runing and pressure.  These are the aspects that create a premiership team.  All out attack does not induce strong, accountable footy.

The biggest problem I see, is the current trend in footy not allow contested possession wherever possible.  Unfortunately our skills arent at a level where we can master this type of play, and really we need to put more faith in our players to win the ball more often, instead of chipping backwards and sideways.  At times this year Ive seen the Tigers play this very well, and attack at the opportune times, and it looked brilliant.  However, too often we've gone back into our shells and gone way too defensive especially against teams where we were major underdogs.

In time, and with the building up of a stronger team list Im sure the confidence will limprove to play a much more attractive and rewarding style of play.  Have already liked the way the Deledio's, Raines's, Polo's and Tambling's have taken on the opposition at times.

Id jsut liek us to improve and over hte last four weeks we have gone severely backwards. severely.

 

[itsintheblood]

Can you please explain to me these two questions i have.

Ever since Terry arrived with the excitement of playing an attacking style and 16 goals a game we :

1) Why when we score a behind do we allow upto 3 easy possessions to the opposition, build a wall round the centre, centre half forward (opposing side) and continuously get killed (easy goals).
Is this something that is a directive of Terry, the players or both?
Why is it that Joel and others who kick out take soooo long and we get caught we turnovers or lately , this year we seem to just turn and handball it through for a behind.?

2) Why is it when we score a behind we dont seem to man up and allow easy possessions which has been called "coast to coast"?

When we man up, play one on one football and play our style, kicking it bloody long we seem a pretty exciting side.

This is sooo frustrating to see

I just continuously find myself yelling' man up"

Tell if i see it wrong or others see and are just as frustrated as myself

W F the next premiership

When grant kicked his second goal from a coast to coast I called it as soon as they kicked it out from full back. We didnt touch the ball and you could see the set play building. Sometimes I think our players are just dumb.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Last time I saw the numbers, Rd 10 or so, Footscray led the league in coast-to-coast goals.

Our plan from opposition kick ins, seems to be to build our defence behind centre so that we can get posession, retain it and build our attack from there. We don't get a lot of clean posession at the stoppages so this is a cheap way of getting the ball. Man on man is not the way to go at kick-ins.

That seems to be the plan but we're not too good at most of our plans ATM.

We have gone backwards in recent weeks as our available list shrinks. A low talent, inexperienced side is not going to be able to counter the injuries we've suffered during this season.

I'm not too distressed about where we're at given the available talent. The youngsters are getting a go and learning what they've got to do to be successful.

 

[jimbler]

Considering only 3 teams have averaged more than 100 points a game this year (and taking into account that these averages are bumped up by big wins), maybe that statement of 100 points a game is a bit wishful. Rather than concentrating on all out attack I would like to see the tigers improve in the tough areas such as tackling, shepherding, hardball gets, centre breakouts, hard runing and pressure. These are the aspects that create a premiership team. All out attack does not induce strong, accountable footy.

The biggest problem I see, is the current trend in footy not allow contested possession wherever possible. Unfortunately our skills arent at a level where we can master this type of play, and really we need to put more faith in our players to win the ball more often, instead of chipping backwards and sideways. At times this year Ive seen the Tigers play this very well, and attack at the opportune times, and it looked brilliant. However, too often we've gone back into our shells and gone way too defensive especially against teams where we were major underdogs.

In time, and with the building up of a stronger team list Im sure the confidence will limprove to play a much more attractive and rewarding style of play. Have already liked the way the Deledio's, Raines's, Polo's and Tambling's have taken on the opposition at times.

Id jsut liek us to improve and over hte last four weeks we have gone severely backwards. severely.

It only looks that way because we were playing the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th teams on the ladder. I think a lot of people were getting too far ahead of themselves - when in reality, we still have a long, long way to go.

 

[nitrotiger]

All I have to say is...
Round 1 losing margin.......119 points........
Round 2 losing margin.......22 points..........

I rest my case....Of course there,s still improvement to come...but champion teams dont come overnight.....
Personally,after SEEING for my self Saturday.....Im bloody encouraged by what I see from the younger guys......
Keep goin forward and improving tigers........ :clap

 

[poppa x]

16 goals doesn't necessarily equate with excitement. The Pies/Crows game was exciting yet each team only scored just over 50 points. As a great man once said "the times are a changing".

 

[Knighter]

As a great man once said "the times are a changing".

Diggler?

 

[jb03]

All I have to say is...
Round 1 losing margin.......119 points........
Round 2 losing margin.......22 points..........

I rest my case....Of course there,s still improvement to come...but champion teams dont come overnight.....
Personally,after SEEING for my self Saturday.....Im bloody encouraged by what I see from the younger guys......
Keep goin forward and improving tigers........ :clap

Round 2 losing margin to Saints.........  11 points
Round 17 losing margin to Saints ......103 points

 

[bowden4president]

All I have to say is...
Round 1 losing margin.......119 points........
Round 2 losing margin.......22 points..........

I rest my case....Of course there,s still improvement to come...but champion teams dont come overnight.....
Personally,after SEEING for my self Saturday.....Im bloody encouraged by what I see from the younger guys......
Keep goin forward and improving tigers........ :clap

Round 2 losing margin to Saints.........  11 points
Round 17 losing margin to Saints ......103 points

:rofl you've goy a good point there

 

[craig]

Modern footy is BS and a shadow of the game i grew up living and breathing.

Too much tactical *smile* and terminology from games such as soccer, basketaball and gri iron that have absolutely no resemblance to our great game.

Catch the ball and kick it long through the big sticks FFS.

 

[Chiang Mai Tiger]

another question ...what happened to pangers ???

 

[the claw]

All I have to say is...
Round 1 losing margin.......119 points........
Round 2 losing margin.......22 points..........

I rest my case....Of course there,s still improvement to come...but champion teams dont come overnight.....
Personally,after SEEING for my self Saturday.....Im bloody encouraged by what I see from the younger guys......
Keep goin forward and improving tigers........ :clap

Round 2 losing margin to Saints.........  11 points
Round 17 losing margin to Saints ......103 points

hhhaaaarrrrggggghhh hhhaaaarrrrgggghhhh haaaarrrrggghhhh. another question no make that 2 do you have a case jb and if so do you rest it. :rofl

 

[Ian4]

Modern footy is BS and a shadow of the game i grew up living and breathing.

Too much tactical *smile*

so coaches should be banned from creating tactics?

i don't think tw has got it right when we kick a behind... while most team employ a zone, we employ man on man. that doesn't work in modern footy imo...