ARC Appeal

[achillesjones]

Too many umpires to have one under each post. Next issue will be umpires preventing players from a clear run at the ball.
Week after week we whinge about being robbed by this decision or that in general play and then move on and forget about it, but the arc has upset more people than anything and it has been durable angst.
Further, the conferences and delays present an anticlimax to the kicking of a goal. And this should be sacrosanct in our game.
The arc is quite simply a failed experiment.

 

[King Kong]

Funny how when the AFL wants something to go away nothing gets written about it.

 

[daniel30]

Funny how when the AFL wants something to go away nothing gets written about it.

Yeah still waiting for this amazing footage and the betting umpires scandal gone quite also. The afl owns 90% of the media most are yes men and the ones aren't like Warner get tossed aside.

 

[mjb]

David Rodan has never referred a decision to the Arc. Be like Dave!!!

 

[YinnarTiger]

They have gone with extra field umpires. Surely cheaper in the long run to invest in state of the art tech than extra people.

Except that "state of the art tech" is a figment of the imagination of Eddie Maguire or some of his TV exec mates.

A good pair of eyes connected to a human brain is the more efficient technology and definitely cheaper.

 

[graystar1]

Except that "state of the art tech" is a figment of the imagination of Eddie Maguire or some of his TV exec mates.

A good pair of eyes connected to a human brain is the more efficient technology and definitely cheaper.

You nailed it YT.

 

[RoarEmotion]

Except that "state of the art tech" is a figment of the imagination of Eddie Maguire or some of his TV exec mates.

A good pair of eyes connected to a human brain is the more efficient technology and definitely cheaper.

Tech would be way cheaper than a whole lot of extra goal umpires over multiple years was my point. Can agree to disagree - we can estimate the labor cost but i don’t have a project estimate to compare it against so it’s more of a guess that you can get something good vs maybe a $1million a year going up with cpi forever.

 

[YinnarTiger]

Tech would be way cheaper than a whole lot of extra goal umpires over multiple years was my point. Can agree to disagree - we can estimate the labor cost but i don’t have a project estimate to compare it against so it’s more of a guess that you can get something good vs maybe a $1million a year going up with cpi forever.

And you still have to pay the blokes inventing, operating and interpreting the so-called technology.

 

[larabee]

You don’t need advanced technology or extra umpires to fix this problem.
Simple change of rules will do. AFL like changing rules, but unlike the previous several years worth of mess, this easy and actually solves a problem.

If the ball hits the post and goes through between the big sticks, it’s a goal.
If the ball hits the post and goes through on the other side, it’s a point.
If the ball hits the post and rebounds back into the playing area, it’s a point.

Easy. No extra tech or umps required.

Every other code has this - soccer, gridiron, rugby, league. None have a penalty if the ball hits the bar/upright/post before going across the goal line.

Simples

 

[Maneevo]

You don’t need advanced technology or extra umpires to fix this problem.
Simple change of rules will do. AFL like changing rules, but unlike the previous several years worth of mess, this easy and actually solves a problem.

If the ball hits the post and goes through between the big sticks, it’s a goal.
If the ball hits the post and goes through on the other side, it’s a point.
If the ball hits the post and rebounds back into the playing area, it’s a point.

Easy. No extra tech or umps required.

Every other code has this - soccer, gridiron, rugby, league. None have a penalty if the ball hits the bar/upright/post before going across the goal line.

Simples

I hear what you are saying, but how does it help a system that allows a video referee with rubbish footage to state that without any doubt a football was travelling directly over a post, and if that post was longer it would definitely have hit it?

 

[Tigers of Old]

I hear what you are saying, but how does it help a system that allows a video referee with rubbish footage to state that without any doubt a football was travelling directly over a post, and if that post was longer it would definitely have hit it?

Umpire's call.

This in addition to Larry's suggestions make the game consistent across all league's & levels. No technology required!

 

[Sintiger]

I hear what you are saying, but how does it help a system that allows a video referee with rubbish footage to state that without any doubt a football was travelling directly over a post, and if that post was longer it would definitely have hit it?

Easy solved ….just have 50 metre high posts

 

[larabee]

I hear what you are saying, but how does it help a system that allows a video referee with rubbish footage to state that without any doubt a football was travelling directly over a post, and if that post was longer it would definitely have hit it?

Goal umpires decision.

 

[gold1]

Easy solved ….just have 50 metre high posts

Actually not as far out as it sounds!

 

[snags]

True to an extent however we were also finding ways to lose against ordinary sides too , GC NM freo draw , all exposed our underbelly , we’ve moved on and hopefully addressed our weakest link

Better coaching support especially defensive mechanisms. We were very poor in that aspect at times. Truck is the man.

 

[snags]

I still believe 2 Goal umps at each end is the answer to 99% of the issues

One mounted in a crow’s nest atop the goal post?

 

[Tigers of Old]

Actually not as far out as it sounds!

Currently only 15m high. Would need to be more than 3 times it's current height!

 

[snags]

Yeah nah. Position of goal umpire was ok. Just force them to make a decision and leave it at that. The more involved, the murkier it gets. Umpires make mistakes all the time. The arc is a total waste of money and source of frustration. Give the arc money to charity and we can all move on.

I don’t mind the arc. It does it’s job if it stays in it’s lane of 100% conclusive. The wheels fall off when they’re using triangulation with footage that doesn’t exist.

 

[snags]

Funny how when the AFL wants something to go away nothing gets written about it.

Yeah the AFL website top 50 moments of 2022 had at least 10 close games listed. The final decided by a kick with a dubious arc decision didn’t get a mention.

 

[RoarEmotion]

And you still have to pay the blokes inventing, operating and interpreting the so-called technology.

So you are saying remove all existing arc tech and then employ more goal umps? Agree That will be cheaper.