Are enforcers a thing of the past?

[Mr Brightside]

The big hero snipper's are gone from our great game,but I think its a must that you have most of your team menatlly tough an unable to be intimidated

 

[Phar Ace]

The big hero snipper's are gone from our great game,but I think its a must that you have most of your team menatlly tough an unable to be intimidated

I say good to that in some respects CC. Striking on the footy field is akin, in gravity, to murder on the street - let either go uncontrolled and you have complete mayhem. Yeah, I've been wacked, but only gave one out (an aging Peter Bedford at the express request of my coach - and I didn't like it to be honest). There should be no pride in "getting" some one unsighted - a good hip an shoulder however is great, delivered or received. It is a fundamental great part of the game - can be absolutely debilitating for 5-10 minutes if laid astutely. This for mine is still the enforcer's role

Every player has to deal with the niggles - cos retaliators usually get caught first.

 

[Mr Brightside]

I say good to that in some respects CC. Striking on the footy field is akin in gravity to murder on the street - let either go uncontrolled and you have complete mayhem. Yeah, I've been wacked, but only gave one out (an aging Peter Bedford at the express request of my coach - and I didn't like it to be honest). There should be no pride in "getting" some one unsighted - a good hip an shoulder however is great, delivered or received. It is a fundamental great part of the game - can be absolutely debilitating for 5-10 minutes if laid astutely. This for mine is still the enforcers role

Every player has to deal with the niggles - cos retaliators usually get caught first.

I suppose Pharace Im one who expects a high percentage of the team to lay good bumps an blocks,an 100% of the team to lay hard bone crunching tackles,plus over the years I have found a lot of these "tough guys" soft as butter when confronted or there time comes to put there head over the ball.

I think the AFL's done a great job of cleaning up the AFL but lets hope the done make it too squeaky 8)

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Enforcers were players who'd see the Bakers and Carrs of this world giving a young teammate a hard time, whisper in the tagger's ear "Leave the kid alone or you're going off on a stretcher", and back up their words if necessary.

They've been outlawed, therefore we need more Bakers and Carrs.

 

[jackfrost]

What you think of as enforcers I'd probably think of as thugs to a degree jack. The rules have changed the role of an enforcer and, now I think of them as someone who takes no crap, someone who's willing to throw an opposition layer into the ground, someone who'll throw his weight around if his team mates have been wronged, someone who'll make the opposition think twice. Chapman is a scarey fella and it's good to see Dan have him in a headlock.

Not sure why the sarcasm 6y. Dan mightn't be the scariest enforcer in the league but he's one of the few Tigers willing to put his body on the line and fly the flag for his mates. I think you're hanging it on the wrong player there.

Wouldn't disagree with you about "Thug's" in the least Rosy , back in the Day , there were those that's only intention was to deck the other's "Gun's" , played against a few myself , lucky for me I was just Quick enough to duck a few "haymaker's" that would have sent me "Out -of-State".
The difference I was trying to point out with the player's I named earlier , was that , not only were they feared from an Intensity aspect , but they could also "Turn" a game with there ability's , which at this point in his Career , I haven't seen Young Dan do. Not saying he can't become a better player , and do the Enforcing as well , that would be great.
I did happen to see last year's Mc Goo's Grand Final and clearly remember Conner's and Jackson trying there darndest to upset the Cat's with a bit of Physicality , but sheer weight of number's took it's toll and there was an incident where Jackson was clearly outpointed by an opponent and didn't want anything to do with the "Rough Stuff" because he knew it would be a 5 to 1 ratio within second's.

Our Blokes just aren't equipped , Physically or Mentally at this stage to handle the more experienced team's , that's just so obvious to me that the moment.

In No Way was I trying to "Put Jackson Down" for his aggresion , but I'd like to see a mix of geniune talent and aggresion displayed by all our Guy's , and not when we are 15 Goals down either.

Do it early and often , when the Tone of the game hasn't yet been established , that's how Games are decided. It's far to easy for anybody to start getting physical , when there's nothing at stake , that takes NO skill whatsoever.

I realise the Game has changed in the time that I've been gone , almost to the point of unidentifiable in some instances , I'm afraid to say..........................but , the one thing that hasn't changed and never will , is You've gotta want the Football at any Cost ...............if you don't have that ingredient , then the rest is irrelevent.

We have to many that want the easy kick and aren't willing to "Lay it all on the Line" , and while that remains at Tigerland , we will never be anymore than a Team that is making up the Number's.

 

[Hayfever]

No its not Sneezy, Watch Gehrig closely and he actually avoids physicality unless the opposing player is blindsided. Even then, mostly he runs past the intended targets and flaps his elbow out half heartedly. He has the mad eyes but is as far from someone like Plugger as is possible

Very few players realise it though jb...... most cannot get out of his way quick enough. It's all about effectiveness, and bluff is a big part of the art of enforcement in the modern era. Remember the first onfield clash of Archer v Carey(Crows) after "the" incident. Archer spooked Carey but did not hit him......... very symbolic but so effective. The game lost a great enforcer when Archer retired.

Back on big Fraser....... I admire him and do watch him very closely. I also agree with what you say though and the proof was in the finals clash v Sydney in 2005. The one where Hall "tummy-tapped" Molly Maguire and effectively turned the game the Swans way. It rattled the Saints and they were very slow to react. Then eventually Grant Thomas made the move I reckon he should have done immediately.......... Gehrig down back on Hall. I expected an all-in brawl but Frase did exactly what you said..... he avoided physicality. I'm still pissed off about it.

Jake King is one of very few players who has ignored Gehrig's bluff and was brilliant in drawing a penalty off him in the NAB game. We need more players with the same attitude as Jake.

 

[jimbler]

What I would give to see one of our boys do a Mark Yeates and clean up Judd at the opening bounce, but unfortunately, I can't think of one current Tiger that would be up to it.