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Further on the argument whether we are short on KPP's or not.
Let's apply some numbers and %'s.
On the field you need approx. 7 Kpp's on match day. That is FF, CHF, FP, CHB, Ruck, interchange ruck and 3rd up key back or 3rd tall (the interchange ruck can also be this 3rd tall, or the resting ruckman can also fill this role). So we can sort of agree that on match day you need 7 talls or KPP's. 7 out of 22 is 31.8%.
From our list of 42 31.8% equals 13.36, lets make it 14. In other words to have a good balance of talls we need to have 14 of them within our playing list of 42.
Greg Stafford 203cm
Trent Knobel 202cm
Adam Pattison 198cm
Angus Graham 197cm
Ray Hall 196cm
Matthew Richardson 196cm
Troy Simmonds 196cm
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Jay Schulz 193cm
Darren Gaspar 193cm
Dean Limbach 192cm
Cleve Hughes 191.9cm
Luke McGuane 191cm
Patrick Bowden 191cm
Andrew Kelleway 190cm
Kelvin Moore 190cm
Will Thursfield 190cm
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Jarrad Oakley Nicholls 188.1 cm
Brett Deledio 188cm
Daniel Jackson 188cm
Shane Tuck 188cm
Joel Bowden 188cm
Dean Polo 187cm
Mark Coughlan 187cm
Travis Casserly 186.5cm
Greg Tivendale 186cm
Kane Johnson 186cm
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Thomas Roach 184cm
Kayne Pettifer 184cm
Chris Hyde 184cm
Chris Newman 183cm
Danny Meyer 183cm
Nathan Brown 183cm
Cam Howat 183cm
Andrew Raines 182cm
Richard Tambling 181cm
Brent Hartigan 181cm
Mark Chaffey 180cm
Jeremy Humm 180cm
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Matt White 178cm
Nathan Foley 177cm
Andrew Krakouer 174cm
David Rodan 171cm
If you draw the line between Thursfield and Oakley Nicholls as the line that seperates KPP's and mediums, then you will see that we have in effect 16 KPP's, in excess of the 14 required.
Now let's see how our developing KPP's compare. Based on age it would be fair to say that we have approx. 21 players in the developing stage (that is 21 years or under). Everyone under Kelvin Moore below I have as development players. Therefore 31.8% of 21 equals 6.67 => 7. In other words, to have a good balance of KPP's within our development bunch we need at least 7. In effect we have 8, which is a fair balance IMO.
Greg Stafford 27/8/74 - 31 years 127 days
Matthew Richardson 19/3/75 - 30 years 288 days
Andrew Kellaway 23/11/75 - 30 years 39 days
Darren Gaspar 20/5/76 - 29 years 226 days
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Mark Chaffey 6/5/77 - 28 years 240 days
Nathan Brown 10/2/78 - 27 years 325 days
Kane Johnson 15/3/78 - 27 years 292 days
Joel Bowden 21/6/78 - 27 years 192 days
Troy Simmonds 13/7/78 - 27 years 172 days
Greg Tivendale 19/4/79 - 26 years 257 days
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Trent Knobel 23/5/80 - 25 years 223 days
Ray Hall 27/10/80 - 25 years 66 days
Patrick Bowden 4/8/81 - 24 years 150 days
Shane Tuck 24/12/81 - 24 years 8 days
Kayne Pettifer 22/1/82 - 23 years 344 days
Mark Coughlan 20/4/82 - 23 years 256 days
Chris Newman 18/5/82 - 23 years 228 days
Chris Hyde 9/8/82 - 23 years 145 days
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Jeremy Humm (r) 5/1/83 - 22 years 361 days
Andrew Krakouer 4/2/83 - 22 years 331 days
David Rodan 8/10/83 - 22 years 85 days
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Kelvin Moore 25/3/84 - 21 years 282 days
Brent Hartigan 7/4/85 - 20 years 269 days
Jay Schulz 18/4/85 - 20 years 258 days
Thomas Roach 2/9/85 - 20 years 121 days
Nathan Foley 8/9/85 - 20 years 115 days
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Adam Pattison 5/3/86 - 19 years 302 days
Andew Raines 8/3/86 - 19 years 299 days
Will Thursfield 19/4/86 - 19 years 257 days
Daniel Jackson 25/4/86 - 19 years 251 days
Danny Meyer 3/8/86 - 19 years 151 days
Dean Polo 5/8/86 - 19 years 149 days
Richard Tambling 12/8/86 - 19 years 142 days
Dean Limbach 25/10/86 - 19 years 68 days
Cleve Hughes 15/1/87 - 18 years 351 days
Cameron Howat (r) 30/1/87 - 18 years 336 days
Luke McGuane 12/2/87 - 18 years 323 days
Matthew White 25/2/87 - 18 years 310 days
Angus Graham (r) 16/4/87 - 18 years 260 days
Brett Deledio 18/4/87 - 18 years 258 days
Travis Casserley 20/5/87 - 18 years 226 days
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls 9/2/88 - 17 years 326 days
In summary, based on purely who is categorised as KPP, our list contains a good balance of KPP's as compared to runners/midfielders/mediums, in both the list as a whole and within our developing players/kids under 21. Whether they are of the sufficient quality is another question and time will tell but in terms of numbers it seems about right.
Let's apply some numbers and %'s.
On the field you need approx. 7 Kpp's on match day. That is FF, CHF, FP, CHB, Ruck, interchange ruck and 3rd up key back or 3rd tall (the interchange ruck can also be this 3rd tall, or the resting ruckman can also fill this role). So we can sort of agree that on match day you need 7 talls or KPP's. 7 out of 22 is 31.8%.
From our list of 42 31.8% equals 13.36, lets make it 14. In other words to have a good balance of talls we need to have 14 of them within our playing list of 42.
Greg Stafford 203cm
Trent Knobel 202cm
Adam Pattison 198cm
Angus Graham 197cm
Ray Hall 196cm
Matthew Richardson 196cm
Troy Simmonds 196cm
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Jay Schulz 193cm
Darren Gaspar 193cm
Dean Limbach 192cm
Cleve Hughes 191.9cm
Luke McGuane 191cm
Patrick Bowden 191cm
Andrew Kelleway 190cm
Kelvin Moore 190cm
Will Thursfield 190cm
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Jarrad Oakley Nicholls 188.1 cm
Brett Deledio 188cm
Daniel Jackson 188cm
Shane Tuck 188cm
Joel Bowden 188cm
Dean Polo 187cm
Mark Coughlan 187cm
Travis Casserly 186.5cm
Greg Tivendale 186cm
Kane Johnson 186cm
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Thomas Roach 184cm
Kayne Pettifer 184cm
Chris Hyde 184cm
Chris Newman 183cm
Danny Meyer 183cm
Nathan Brown 183cm
Cam Howat 183cm
Andrew Raines 182cm
Richard Tambling 181cm
Brent Hartigan 181cm
Mark Chaffey 180cm
Jeremy Humm 180cm
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Matt White 178cm
Nathan Foley 177cm
Andrew Krakouer 174cm
David Rodan 171cm
If you draw the line between Thursfield and Oakley Nicholls as the line that seperates KPP's and mediums, then you will see that we have in effect 16 KPP's, in excess of the 14 required.
Now let's see how our developing KPP's compare. Based on age it would be fair to say that we have approx. 21 players in the developing stage (that is 21 years or under). Everyone under Kelvin Moore below I have as development players. Therefore 31.8% of 21 equals 6.67 => 7. In other words, to have a good balance of KPP's within our development bunch we need at least 7. In effect we have 8, which is a fair balance IMO.
Greg Stafford 27/8/74 - 31 years 127 days
Matthew Richardson 19/3/75 - 30 years 288 days
Andrew Kellaway 23/11/75 - 30 years 39 days
Darren Gaspar 20/5/76 - 29 years 226 days
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Mark Chaffey 6/5/77 - 28 years 240 days
Nathan Brown 10/2/78 - 27 years 325 days
Kane Johnson 15/3/78 - 27 years 292 days
Joel Bowden 21/6/78 - 27 years 192 days
Troy Simmonds 13/7/78 - 27 years 172 days
Greg Tivendale 19/4/79 - 26 years 257 days
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Trent Knobel 23/5/80 - 25 years 223 days
Ray Hall 27/10/80 - 25 years 66 days
Patrick Bowden 4/8/81 - 24 years 150 days
Shane Tuck 24/12/81 - 24 years 8 days
Kayne Pettifer 22/1/82 - 23 years 344 days
Mark Coughlan 20/4/82 - 23 years 256 days
Chris Newman 18/5/82 - 23 years 228 days
Chris Hyde 9/8/82 - 23 years 145 days
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Jeremy Humm (r) 5/1/83 - 22 years 361 days
Andrew Krakouer 4/2/83 - 22 years 331 days
David Rodan 8/10/83 - 22 years 85 days
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Kelvin Moore 25/3/84 - 21 years 282 days
Brent Hartigan 7/4/85 - 20 years 269 days
Jay Schulz 18/4/85 - 20 years 258 days
Thomas Roach 2/9/85 - 20 years 121 days
Nathan Foley 8/9/85 - 20 years 115 days
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Adam Pattison 5/3/86 - 19 years 302 days
Andew Raines 8/3/86 - 19 years 299 days
Will Thursfield 19/4/86 - 19 years 257 days
Daniel Jackson 25/4/86 - 19 years 251 days
Danny Meyer 3/8/86 - 19 years 151 days
Dean Polo 5/8/86 - 19 years 149 days
Richard Tambling 12/8/86 - 19 years 142 days
Dean Limbach 25/10/86 - 19 years 68 days
Cleve Hughes 15/1/87 - 18 years 351 days
Cameron Howat (r) 30/1/87 - 18 years 336 days
Luke McGuane 12/2/87 - 18 years 323 days
Matthew White 25/2/87 - 18 years 310 days
Angus Graham (r) 16/4/87 - 18 years 260 days
Brett Deledio 18/4/87 - 18 years 258 days
Travis Casserley 20/5/87 - 18 years 226 days
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls 9/2/88 - 17 years 326 days
In summary, based on purely who is categorised as KPP, our list contains a good balance of KPP's as compared to runners/midfielders/mediums, in both the list as a whole and within our developing players/kids under 21. Whether they are of the sufficient quality is another question and time will tell but in terms of numbers it seems about right.