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Otis said:
Tivendale only plays 1 good game in 6 (like many other Richmond players). Turns the footy over too much, is a bit soft and doesn't have much of a defensive side to his game (although that's improved in recent times but has a long way to go).
I'd like to *smile* him off as well CC, but until someone better comes along, where stuck with him. Think next year might be his last season for us, before some of the young kids are ready to take over his role.
The Boss said:
Seeing Rayzor has a year to go on his contract we're unlikely to flick him. He's been offered around the trade tables the last couple of years so I'd be surprised if he doesn't see his contract out at Tigerland, unless it's his decision to leave. I wonder how much he loves us?
The Boss said:
Thank god I'm not the only one on the bandwagon.
Oooops, I think I probably have tickled a raw nerve...........blah, blah, blah, blah.
lamb22 said:
I'm not saying that at all Lamb, I'm saying that when a side has twice as many attacking opportunities courtesy of their vastly superior midfield, and those attacking opportunities are as unpressured as an U/13 training drill, it doesn't matter whose playing full back.
For example, Michael and Leppitsch have both been smashed at times (just like all defenders) when the Lions midfield hasn't been dominant - not to mention Silvagni who had big bags kicked on him in a far better side than ours...and in an era when scragging was legal...if Hall could scrag he's be a much tougher defender to beat.
I suspect that not so long ago Lions fans were saying 'who the hell is Jay Schulz and why couldn't we stop him bagging a lazy 6 in just his 16th game?' And the Lions were very competitive that night, in stark contrast to what we were on Saturday. Schulz had maybe 7 opportunities that night and just about bagged the lot. Gehrig had around 20 opportunities and kicked 10. Reverse the situation and do the maths mate.
It's no coincidence that almost all the 'best' defenders play in the best teams. In many cases a defenders reputation is almost solely down to the fact that the ball carrier is pressured and can't deliver as well, giving the defender reasonable opportunity to spoil or mop up. Lacking that reasonable opportunity due to a lack of pressure on the ball carrier or just fantastic delivery, the 'best' get flogged just like the so called ordinary players. And sometimes, as in the Shulz example, they get flogged from limited opportunities and average delivery.
Brettstigers said:
I'm afraid you've got a short memory Brett.
Last year against the Hawks he kicked three in a half across CHF while also running back into defence and covering a lot of ground away from attack. That was his only game forward in seasons. Prior to that he has kicked bags of four and three and a couple of two - every time he's played forward even for part of a game he's done the job well and put the score on the board.
He hasn't had the chance to do so in a long time because of our defensive injuries, not because he can't do the job. For all we know, he may have been among the best forwards at the club - what little statistical sample we have to go on suggests that may well be the case.
CC TIGER said:
Not to mention the best boxer CC. :hihi
Yep, Hall's athleticism is why he should be playing a Goodes type role covering a lot of miles rather than stuck at full back on a fast leading player. Even at CHB he's much more effective because he has a chance to wind up. He's just not a sit and sprint type player...he's a stayer, and with his height and endurance he'd be a real handful for sides to match up on if we could finally get to a position where we could use his best assets to our advantage and play him as a roaming tall. Unfortunately, that opportunity was blown in rd.2 while he was still out with a back injury - that's when we lost both Schulz and Thursty.
Still, to Hall's credit, he's had some good games at full back when he's fit and hasn't been given impossible tasks. He gets the job because he's more capable than anyone else dragged away from their natural position to cover injuries.
geoffryprettyboy said:Oooops, I think I probably have tickled a raw nerve...........blah, blah, blah, blah.
LMAO...nah, you're still tickling mullets in the cubicle with the plunger and they're still getting away.
