Ben Nason Pick 71

[Col.E.Kurtz]

I did. Don't know whom it was, but there was definitely one. My feel is Jamie MacMillan. Frank was a massive fan I believe. Then again, probably was a few from all clubs.

I think he would have wanted the draft to pan out like 35. MacMillan 44. Astbury 51. Dae. I am happier with the way it turned out by getting Taylor at 51.

That's why it is a draft. ;D

Fair enough, when he paused at 19 and 51 I speculated whether the player we wanted wasn't taken the pick before.

 

[Tigerbob]

Fair enough, when he paused at 19 and 51 I speculated whether the player we wanted wasn't taken the pick before.

Sorry Tapscott was another one :hihi I think they were shocked Melbourne took him. Didn't see that one coming. At the end of teh day though, Griffiths has been on Franks register for about two years. He was destined to come to us from teh time he spent with us.

Also they had a long chat about Taylor at 51. Long chat. They are backing Damien and our leaders on this one. Frank said he has all the talent in the world, just needs some TLC and hard work physically.

 

[Barnzy]

I was hoping Vardy fell to 44, 2 picks short in the end.

 

[Baloo]

Also they had a long chat about Taylor at 51. Long chat. They are backing Damien and our leaders on this one. Frank said he has all the talent in the world, just needs some TLC and hard work physically.

If it was still Wallace and crew in charge this would have been a wasted pick. It sounds like Taylor's progression will be a good yardstick of the changing culture at RFC

 

[jb03]

Wrong? Not particularly. We got who we really rated.

Speaking to Frank he is delighted. He took two players earlier than expected (not by much) as he researched that other clubs were gonna pull the trigger at picks right after ours, but to say he got them wrong, well no. Astbury was in Norths sites at 37 and Dea to Brisbane at 47. Frank really liked them and wanted them in yellow and black. I think in a perfect world Astbury at 44 and Dea at 51 would have been ideal, but then again, getting Taylor at 51 worked everything out I feel. He is a top 30 talent no doubt so to get him at 35 I am sure all the internet experts would have been delighted.

I am unsure on Webberley, I maybe there would of taken Grimes, as I rated him very highly, but that is my opinion and have little idea on Webberley. I think if we got one more tall instead of a small, structurally it would of been better. Who am I to argue with Frank and the boys who have seen these kids thousands of times?

Certainly excited by the fact we have recruited blokes who have outstanding foot skills. That's gotta be a change hey? Pre requisite going into the draft and mission accomplished.

As I said Nason was seen by our recruiters scouting the SANFL and two other clubs knew about him too. It shows the level of scouting we have now to watch this kid so many times and be able to pluck him out of the square so to speak. I think he will play some senior footy and even you, you old Grump, may take notice. ;D

Overall I am satisfied with the draft we have had. I will find out more on Webberley in the next couple of days and give you the reasoning behind his selection too. Also think we will take another youngster in the PSD, I am hoping for Grimes, if that is to happen, I would be over the moon.

What did you think of the draft, and where we went right or wrong?

Thanks for that bobby. Put it this way; if you're happy, then I'm happy.

 

[Tigerbob]

If it was still Wallace and crew in charge this would have been a wasted pick. It sounds like Taylor's progression will be a good yardstick of the changing culture at RFC

I totally agree.

I am backing the new staff. From what I have seen they all have integrity and honesty. Two major factors that the Wallace staff lacked. The development plan that Hardwick has installed sounds very promising.

Very happy go lucky bloke is Damien. I think he has adjusted to his role and looks more confident in his surroundings and dealing with average folk like me and our questions.

Thanks for that bobby. Put it this way; if you're happy, then I'm happy.

:hihi

 

[forgottenman41]

i reckon we should have used 71 on panos,

 

[Rfc4Ever]

i reckon we should have used 71 on panos,

What about Grimes??

 

[IanG]

What about Grimes??

I'm amazed Grimes wasn't picked. Hopefully we can pick him up in the PSD.

 

[davidrodan]

Bobby, any chance we will delist another and have one more PSD pick?

 

[Tigerbob]

Bobby, any chance we will delist another and have one more PSD pick?

I don't think that is on the cards mate.

 

[TOT70]

I don't think that is on the cards mate.

Actually, that is exactly what they should be doing. Delisting another player, like say, Jordan McMahon, would give us three more picks in the next dozen or so "live" picks, given that Melbourne, Sydney and Freo are already committed.

We can always rookie Jordy again if no-one else wants him and he can pop up as one of our Nominated Rookies and play in round 1.

MAy as well get in before the rush, I say.

 

[davidrodan]

Actually, that is exactly what they should be doing. Delisting another player, like say, Jordan McMahon, would give us three more picks in the next dozen or so "live" picks, given that Melbourne, Sydney and Freo are already committed.

We can always rookie Jordy again if no-one else wants him and he can pop up as one of our Nominated Rookies and play in round 1.

MAy as well get in before the rush, I say.

They are my thoughts too, cept I would go with someone else, maybe King?

 

[Tigerbob]

Actually, that is exactly what they should be doing. Delisting another player, like say, Jordan McMahon, would give us three more picks in the next dozen or so "live" picks, given that Melbourne, Sydney and Freo are already committed.

We can always rookie Jordy again if no-one else wants him and he can pop up as one of our Nominated Rookies and play in round 1.

MAy as well get in before the rush, I say.

Yep.

I said it wasn't on the cards, not that it shouldn't happen.

With what has been left off the draft, I would delist King and McMahon, and recruit Grimes and Dare onto the main list.

 

[TOT70]

Yep.

I said it wasn't on the cards, not that it shouldn't happen.

With what has been left off the draft, I would delist King and McMahon, and recruit Grimes and Dare onto the main list.

Funny thing is, even if we don't, I'll bet someone will.

 

[Mr Pumblechook]

He took two players earlier than expected (not by much) as he researched that other clubs were gonna pull the trigger at picks right after ours, but to say he got them wrong, well no. Astbury was in Norths sites at 37 and Dea to Brisbane at 47.

How does that happen, that he (or anyone) knows what other clubs are going to do?

I would have thought everyone plays their cards very close to their chests.

 

[Tigerbob]

How does that happen, that he (or anyone) knows what other clubs are going to do?

I would have thought everyone plays their cards very close to their chests.

There is plenty of ways and means.

The better recruiters are the ones that can know who are interested in players and know their strategy. Not entirely to a tee but close enough.

Recruiting is a very lonely job. Out to places by yourself, you tend to see the same faces at games and strike up some sort of relationships. For instance you tend to know which clubs are interested in which players by seeing the same recruiter at the games you are assigned to every week. You get talking and there you go. Also the contacts you have from other TAC or VFL/SANFL/WAFL clubs etc can always give you a bit of information in regards to what club has shown interest in what players.

Kinnear Beatson was a master at knowing exactly how the draft was going to pan out. Of course there are some shocks, but if Matt Burgan can get some inside scoops, and Emma Quale also, the recruiting managers would get more.

 

[Mr Pumblechook]

Cheers TB

 

[the claw]

in fairness to this kid he looks like a footballer would have liked a tall here though. i think the real critique is.

we took taylor at 51 and the wraps on him skillwise are big but i reckon you can compare his situation to peterson with his attitude we are taking a punt but a punt worth taking.

we took dae at 44 a speculative basketball background. i dont know much about him but kicking and smarts are two things that spring to mind straight away as concerns because of his background. can anyone tell me where he is at with these areas. again a punt.
some one said we took him at 44 for the sole reason we were concerned stkilda might take him at 47 if this is true that is a concern. i had heard collingwood were keen at 62 dont know how true that is.
the jon deal happened because of concerns other clubs would take him.we took a player at 8 when we should not have. if you worry about what other clubs might do you arent doing your job.you put them where you think they should go you dont take them early because of maybes.

67 we took webberley 21 yr old 181cm 78kg defender. i thought we took mitch farmer before the draft. not going to criticise the kid he may be a good player for us. i know nothing about him. again they apparently have watched him for a bit now. for mine i would have taken a tall here or perhaps nanson who does look a decent player and we used 71 on a speculative tall.

it seems all picks bar one meet certain basic criteria which is good to see skills and kicking seem to have been looked at.

over all we have farmer, nahas, browne, martin, griffiths, astbury, dae, taylor, webberly, nason, if we get 6 maybe 7 players from that lot i will be happy regardless.

 

[IanG]

some one said we took him at 44 for the sole reason we were concerned stkilda might take him at 47 if this is true that is a concern. i had heard collingwood were keen at 62 dont know how true that is.
the jon deal happened because of concerns other clubs would take him.

Big difference between a top 10 pick and 44.