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Blair's Boys - 2012 Trade Week Targets
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Baloo said:
He's played most of the 25 games at CHB under Wallace and Dimma. I never remember a game at CHF.
Our coaching department have problems in pursuing with an old Miller up forward, where he received well but never delivered, instead of trying younger players (e.g. Elton).
If he's never played there, as you say, why the song and dance before the season kicked off about the club and Post agreeing to peruse a defensive role going forward ?
Again, do you think with our lack of KPF that the footy dept haven't considered Post forward ? The fact they don't put him there sends a pretty clear message.
Again, do you think with our lack of KPF that the footy dept haven't considered Post forward ? The fact they don't put him there sends a pretty clear message.
Baloo said:
Possibly, but it could mean the same thing for Griffiths not playing at CHF also. I just think they see a player's true position subjectively and are too stubborn to make moves during the game when it counts in order to at least try someone/something out.
If McGone & Miller are failing, then why not make changes?
Baloo said:
C'mon Baloo, no-one's worse than Gus. He was dropped after 1 game while Post remains. How does the coaching staff seem now?
Baloo said:
If we're failing at CHF so much, then try Post there as he has played forward in his junior days. I'm not sure how you see Post as the 'worst alternative' if he hasn't been tried at CHF yet, at least for a full game, just like they did when they pursued with Rance in defence in the last 2 years while he was getting bagged?
If you think the footy dept thought well, then why not give Gus a run alongside Maric instead of burning the bloke leaving him on his own. If Dimma & co are taking risks throughout games to develop and experience other players, then why not make these 2 obvious changes.
Post has played CHF. Maybe not this year, but enough for the club to decide his only chance is as a defender. You don't remember the media pieces announcing that thinking don't you ?
Rance was always kept in defense even when many muppets were calling for his delisting. Surely that shows the club did, rightly, back Rance when he wasn't showing much. Quite the opposite situation to Post up front.
Again, this is nothing to do with Gus. Ivan is our #1 ruck. Gus is also a #1 ruck but behind Ivan. When he's out Gus gets to turn on the afterburners. Until then he'll have to content himself with 60+ hit outs at Coburg.
What Ivan needs is a better second string ruck, like plasma, post, miller, whoever to step and lend him a hand. AFL has moved on from the days where 2 dedicated ruckman can make the same final 22.
But what that has to do with Post I still don't know.
Rance was always kept in defense even when many muppets were calling for his delisting. Surely that shows the club did, rightly, back Rance when he wasn't showing much. Quite the opposite situation to Post up front.
Again, this is nothing to do with Gus. Ivan is our #1 ruck. Gus is also a #1 ruck but behind Ivan. When he's out Gus gets to turn on the afterburners. Until then he'll have to content himself with 60+ hit outs at Coburg.
What Ivan needs is a better second string ruck, like plasma, post, miller, whoever to step and lend him a hand. AFL has moved on from the days where 2 dedicated ruckman can make the same final 22.
But what that has to do with Post I still don't know.
Baloo said:
I cannot remember any game at CHF. Others who saw him as a junior know he was better at CHF. If that's what his natural traits are then TRY him there. What's there to lose? You keep saying he has played at CHF, but he hasn't! It bewilders me on how you or anyone classifies him as the 'worst alternative' given his junior background compared to McGone.
I don't know what this media stuff is that you're on about. Do they make the team decisions?
As for Gus, I was just comparing the stubborness of the footy dept in not giving Gus a reasonable run alongside Maric just like the stubborness in not trying Post at CHF. I know 2 genuine rucks are'nt onfield together anymore but they still have a bench to sit on.
Luke played forward as a junior. More proof that junior form doesn't always translate to senior form.
Seeing the "media" stuff I'm talking about is the club and Post coming out declaring his AFL future is s a defender, I reckon they do make the decisions.
From what I've seen of Post I stand by my point as to why he's a worse alternative. Luke adds defensive pressure. Miller brings some structure. Post doesn't do either, nor much else.
As for Gus, again, comparing Gus's plight to Post's is just silly. How many clubs play two genuine ruckman in the same team these days ? The club is screaming for a decent CHF now that Plasma is down yet Post is the last person on our list they want there. We've got a pretty good ruckman so there is no point in playing Gus as well. But whenIvan is out, Gus is the first one on our list in.
Seeing the "media" stuff I'm talking about is the club and Post coming out declaring his AFL future is s a defender, I reckon they do make the decisions.
From what I've seen of Post I stand by my point as to why he's a worse alternative. Luke adds defensive pressure. Miller brings some structure. Post doesn't do either, nor much else.
As for Gus, again, comparing Gus's plight to Post's is just silly. How many clubs play two genuine ruckman in the same team these days ? The club is screaming for a decent CHF now that Plasma is down yet Post is the last person on our list they want there. We've got a pretty good ruckman so there is no point in playing Gus as well. But whenIvan is out, Gus is the first one on our list in.
Baloo said:
CHF's don't need to add defensive pressure. CHF's present themselves by leading, marking and then lining up for goal. McGone can't do that either. He failed in defence and is given a chance to try in attack which is another failure, and this what I keep harping on about with Post. Try him in attack.
Under Dimma, Post's played just 18 games and all in defence so I'm not sure how you or anyone see his failures under this new game plan?? Coaches must perservere with him just like they do with others.
TigerForce said:
When a player fails in a position at Coburg level, do you really think he can magically turn it around in the seniors ?
McGuane performed better than Post as a forward at Coburg. Christ, Gus has done better up front than Post has at Coburg.
Miller, at VFL level *smile* all over the 3 of them as a KPF.
Post has failed as a forward. He's failing as a defender. I hope he turns it around because god knows we could use a decent KPF swing man, but I'm not holding my breath.
Baloo said:
Marking forwards who don't dominate at VFL level can be effective (not necessarily better) in the seniors because the better quality disposal hits them up and they usually get much better kicks to advantage. I'm not sure whether Post would help up forward or not but I understand why people are asking just to give it a try.
Not having a Powerful Tall forward, even one that doesn't mark often, just someone who contests in the hot spots is killing us because Jack is getting squashed and does not have the power to break through the 2 on 1's. As a result he too often leads wide to avoid getting squashed which is killing our small forwards ability to consistently rove packs.
Nahas' goal tally is OK but his influence on games is way down because we have no talls leading consistently in the corridor.
This is why I have asked for Jesse White to be looked at since last year. He may only finish on 3 marks a game but if Jack stops getting all the focus and Nahas has a monster up forward who he knows will lead to the rights spots and get his hands on it first he knows where to rove.
With Sam Reid going down it will be interesting to see if Sydney just shift around Goodes and Everitt or go with the regular tall in Spanger or the big fella White, especially if Mumford doesn't come back.
If Mumford isn't available then you would think big Jesse will come in to help Pyke in the ruck and play up forward so it would be interesting to see how that plays out. Despite Jesse only playing a few games he may still be an important part to the Swans final's team if the recent injuries to Sydney's talls keep guys from coming back. It shows why you need mature depth on the list.
Colin Sylvia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He hasn't signed a new contract and would be the perfect polisher in our forward line, put him on the flank would be a brilliant acquisition. Hes matured as a player i feel aswell.
I know he has been mentioned before but I heard during the WC vs BRIS game that Koby Stevens is killing it in the WAFL, worth a shot is he and can anyone confirm his form......