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Bowden disgrace.
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tigertough12 said:
That was 4 months or more ago. Do you think Joel has played an important role since then? Has he had any games you'd congratulate him for? I'm sure if people were honest they'd have to admit Joel's positives outweigh his negatives by miles. But I bet they wouldn't be so unbiased. It seems a lot would prefer a player to have an off night so they can get stuck up him.
Joel isn't a disgrace. This thread is.
GoodOne said:
Just adding to this...Joel also averages a large amount of possessions a game, say 25 or something...so he's gonna make 2-3 clangers on average. So it's highly likely, in terms of clangers alone, he's gonna be up there. But would you say he's a less effective player than someone who averages 15 possies and 10% clangers? No. He still gets more of the ball, and like all players, makes mistakes occasionally. No one is perfect. Perhaps cut him a little slack...
i have to say some of the vitriol aimed at darksiders is disgraceful. and why because we dont always paint a rosy picture. the facts are joel has had a pretty good couple of yrs. but last night he got caught out big time and has been criticised for an unacceptable performance and rightly so.
hoiw joel won 2 jd medals is beyond me mainly because of the unaccountable style joel has been allowed to play over the past 2 yrsi would have thought the club would have had a higher criteria.the fact hes won the last 2 jd medals probably speaks volumes for the lack of quality hard it footballers at the club.i agree with a previous post tuckys value to the team far out weighs joels and the hard work tucky did week in week out should have earnt him the medal.
having said all this joel has a role to play and one probably shouldnt criticise him for performing that role.
but i have always maintained any half decently skilled footballer with half a footy brain can do joels sweeping job across h/b actually an ordinary player who was successful in joels role for a couple of yrs was jason cloke a little more defensive than joel but did basically the same job.
finally teams now days are happy for certain players to get the ball because they do no real harm with it imo this is whats happening with joel and its been going on for awhile.
hoiw joel won 2 jd medals is beyond me mainly because of the unaccountable style joel has been allowed to play over the past 2 yrsi would have thought the club would have had a higher criteria.the fact hes won the last 2 jd medals probably speaks volumes for the lack of quality hard it footballers at the club.i agree with a previous post tuckys value to the team far out weighs joels and the hard work tucky did week in week out should have earnt him the medal.
having said all this joel has a role to play and one probably shouldnt criticise him for performing that role.
but i have always maintained any half decently skilled footballer with half a footy brain can do joels sweeping job across h/b actually an ordinary player who was successful in joels role for a couple of yrs was jason cloke a little more defensive than joel but did basically the same job.
finally teams now days are happy for certain players to get the ball because they do no real harm with it imo this is whats happening with joel and its been going on for awhile.
the claw said:
Not all us "brightsiders" or wateva we're called paint a rosy picture. we understand that our team has its flaws but we are so keep to sharpen the axe when a player has a bad game.
U think bowden was caught out last night, well perhaps he was, but your forgetting his other good performances this yr, thats wat darksiders are good at
and there's not many players who can read the play as well as joel can.
the claw said:
You can talk about who YOU think should have won the medal all you like. Fact is Joel Bowden was assessed as the one most deserving. Winning one year, you could say maybe someone was lucky, but two, you are pulling very very short straws. I think what you really need to do is get to a few more games, maybe then you can see the overal picture, rather than the TV tunnel view. Bowden is pivotal to the Tigers and sets up many attacking moves. He is generally very cool under pressure and has immense skills. I love to watch one Joel Bowden at his best. Last night he got beaten and made a few mistakes. One game, move on and get over it. It's not deserving of the title of this thread.
Tucky is a great hard player, and one day he will get his just rewards too.
Comparing Jason Cloke to Bowden is just plain ridiculous, how do you come up with some of this?
bt ive acknowleded bowdens been good for 2 yrs in the role hes doing. all ive basically said is it wasnt acceptable for joel not to tighten up once his opponent started hurting us. hes a senior player and a so called leader he should know when to tighten up and show his opponent some respect.,and it was poor coaching for wallac\e not to do something about it.this in know way is being vitriolic towards bowden its an honest assesment and assesment i would hope the coaching staff comes to as well.BT Tiger said:
i have always maintained any half decently skilled footballer with half a footy brain can do joels sweeping job across h/b actually an ordinary player who was successful in joels role for a couple of yrs was jason cloke a little more defensive than joel but did basically the same job.
well really this sums up ur statement. Just a half decent player across half back who, according to the rest of the world, has been club best and fairest twice.
i suppose it is ur opinion but it is also very narrow minded
well really this sums up ur statement. Just a half decent player across half back who, according to the rest of the world, has been club best and fairest twice.
i suppose it is ur opinion but it is also very narrow minded
It's aimed more at your useless comments rather than at other darksiders who have brains.the claw said:
bt ive acknowleded bowdens been good for 2 yrs in the role hes doing. all ive basically said is it wasnt acceptable for joel not to tighten up once his opponent started hurting us. hes a senior player and a so called leader he should know when to tighten up and show his opponent some respect.,and it was poor coaching for wallac\e not to do something about it.this in know way is being vitriolic towards bowden its an honest assesment and assesment i would hope the coaching staff comes to as well.
Thats not what you said at all in your previous comment I agree with some of what you say this time around, it was a mistake to keep J Bowden on Robertson, but when Robertson is on a roll hes very hard to beat. Hard to counteract a guy who has the confidence to fly from behind as many times as he did last night.
Thats not what you said at all in your previous comment I agree with some of what you say this time around, it was a mistake to keep J Bowden on Robertson, but when Robertson is on a roll hes very hard to beat. Hard to counteract a guy who has the confidence to fly from behind as many times as he did last night.
