I'll be happy to see him make a good comeback and show he has the heart to make a difference in this side. And I do think the few weeks away is enough to fire him up. He does have experience and now he has something to prove. If he can put it all on the line against the leagues best side this weekend he'll do all right. Make it happen Joel and GO THE TIGERS.
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Bowdens wake up call.
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I'm looking forward to his new role.
He's always been versatile and that is what could save his career.
He's always been versatile and that is what could save his career.
He'll come back even more self-centred than he was b4, his return is a major step back 4 the team.
Any progress made during the last mth is now dead in the water.
Thanks terry,now get out of our club & take Bowden,tivendale & all the other me,me,me players with u
Any progress made during the last mth is now dead in the water.
Thanks terry,now get out of our club & take Bowden,tivendale & all the other me,me,me players with u
All I can say is I really hope no players read PRE and the way EVERY player is insulted and humiliated on this site. I have looked at a few other sites and other club's supporters don't seem to hate their own players as much as is seen here.
For me, I can't wait for tomorrow's game. I will be there for the start of the resies till stumps. Can't wait to see JB out there again, and the rest of them for that matter, will be supporting each and every one of them and hope they do themselves proud against the best in the competition.
Suspect a few here can't wait for another smashing so they can say "I told you so" and "I told you he was useless" or "I said he was a hack and wasn't up to AFL level". So far this year PRE pessimists have tried to retire Richo, Johnson and crucify McMahon. All of whom have shut up most of their retractors.
For me, I can't wait for tomorrow's game. I will be there for the start of the resies till stumps. Can't wait to see JB out there again, and the rest of them for that matter, will be supporting each and every one of them and hope they do themselves proud against the best in the competition.
Suspect a few here can't wait for another smashing so they can say "I told you so" and "I told you he was useless" or "I said he was a hack and wasn't up to AFL level". So far this year PRE pessimists have tried to retire Richo, Johnson and crucify McMahon. All of whom have shut up most of their retractors.
Richo & j-mac running around getting easy touches &Jonno finally hits the odd target. Gee we've been put in our place.Silly me i thought footy was a team game,2 & a half wins from 7 games & its a golden age.In the Blood said:
Little wonder this club is in the toilet.
I hope Terry really gives him a licence to run tomorrow.
I'm expecting Joel to bounce back very strongly.
I'm expecting Joel to bounce back very strongly.
danwitdaplan said:
Try to enjoy being a Tiger fan and life in general. If it is too hard to be positive about a game, try something different.
danwitdaplan said:
A kick in 2 games and two goals in another game, it could have easily been 5 wins and 2 losses. After this week we will have played 6 of the top 8 teams. Gee we have some drama queens as supporters. And Richo running around getting the easy touches? Last time I checked he's had the mst contested marks in the league. No-one is falsely calling it a golden age.
the claw said:
My Point here Claw is that while you can simply decide that some players are not going to be the future of the club, at some point you have to try and maximise the resources you have available to you. If Joel Bowden is not one of the best 22 players in terms of general ability that we have on our list then I would concede that his time has come - as it certainly has (in my opinion) with Tivers, Pettifer etc and several of the younger guys.
In my opinion Bowden is comfortably in our best 22 skill wise and is of an age and experience level that we sorely lack (thanks Frawley). I would go so far as to say that we would be somewhere around 1 and a half games further up the table had he played the last few weeks.
Now the response I expect is that 'so what, we are not going to win it this year' and that would be correct, but I can only think Bowden would be a positive influence on the younger guys regardless of Frawley's worthless comments and success breeds confidence more than anything.
Finally, my point in naming a few Geelong guys is that a team is not simply who is 'good' and who isn't; it is a combination of many things, including confidence and culture. If the argument is simply that Bowden is a poison for the culture or isn't (as has been said many times about pretty much every player of value at Richmond in the last 20 years - Campbell, Johnston, Richo and Daffy are probably the marque targets) then I would again site the three Geelong players I named previously who WERE considered to be symptomatic of the cultural problems at Geelong, less than a year prior to their premiership.
The problem with black and white is that it doesn't allow for change. It doesn't allow for emotion and it certainly doesn't allow for gradual improvement. You are right on many issues Claw but my point remains that it is simplistic in a competition where we have a limited number of experienced players, to simply decide that the only way to improve is to remove every less-that-perfect player in the HOPE that the new ones are born with an innate possession of cultural and natural superiority that will replace the dominant culture as if by magic.
I am looking forward to seeing how Bowden goes for the rest of this year. He does need to improve, he does need contribute and if he doesn't the he will be forced out of the side on merit, which is the kind of culture I want at Richmond.
Good point, i should just enjoy all our success over the last 25 yrs,including our momentus wooden spoon win last year. i should also appreciate that hard at it no.11 & recall the good times, such as when he backed out of a contest against that renowned tough man Andrew Carazzo in a carlton game in '06mb64 said:
Yep, i have no reason to complain,25 yrs,2 finals appearances & a bunch of wooden cutlery.
I'm so proud,i know what MB stands 4, Mediocre bull---- & i assume the 64 is the amount of yrs b4 we'll see another finals appearance.
