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[gustiger12]

This isnt a rumour I have made up, but from 3 different people I got told Terry Wallace is on the way out if things keep on going this way.

Kevin Sheedy's a prospect that will come to light if Wallace cops the ass, Im all for Sheeds, it was his mums dieing wish and something that can top off a great career as player and as coach. Sheedy doesnt rebuild, he doesnt go with radical youth development programs and more importantly he keeps his veterans. You rarely see Essendon players traded unless they are trouble makers.

So why would we want him? The senior players are the problem at Richmond.

;D ;D Was thinking the same thing Ian. Isnt that exactly the kind of culture were trying to change.

By the way hellinictiger what do you mean you only heard it from 3 people. Haven't you been reading PRE lately ;D I think about 300 round here are trying to convince themselves its correct. ;D

 

[Ruthless Tigers ?]

This isnt a rumour I have made up, but from 3 different people I got told Terry Wallace is on the way out if things keep on going this way.

Kevin Sheedy's a prospect that will come to light if Wallace cops the ass, Im all for Sheeds, it was his mums dieing wish and something that can top off a great career as player and as coach. Sheedy doesnt rebuild, he doesnt go with radical youth development programs and more importantly he keeps his veterans. You rarely see Essendon players traded unless they are trouble makers.

So why would we want him? The senior players are the problem at Richmond.

Exactly!

We need to take a serious look at the "leaders who aren't leading". This club will not go forward until there is a huge and dramatic change in culture. Time to put sentimentalities aside and just show them the door. This club is bigger than individuals who clearly are not playing for the jumper!

 

[Phar Ace]

This isnt a rumour I have made up, but from 3 different people I got told Terry Wallace is on the way out if things keep on going this way.

So you've been speaking to Bunnerz, Claw and craigy - big deal!

 

[hellenictiger]

The culture that Terry Wallace has implemented has dented all involved at the club and I know this for a fact. He got rid of a couple senior players that where well respected and that caused a total revolt amongst the playing group. Gaspar and Kellaway to be specific, instead of challenging the young kids, he kicked out one life member and had no respect for the other. What message does that send out? Become a life member, stiff *smile*, I'll give you the ass. Matthews, Sheedy and Malthouse dont do that. They ease in the kids, what Wallace has done is chucked them into the deep end and expected them to learn how to swim. The best coaches have respect for players, unlike Wallace who copped it when Gaspar retired. The 157 point flogging wasnt just a bad performance, that was a message to Wallace.

The senior players will be sorted out, its not that big a deal, but Sheedy has a definite control within his team, he has coached Essendon once to a defeat more than a hundred points, Wallace has done that 5 times in 2 years. Sheedy can produce with any list, his team this year is not even that good, but they manage to stay within finals contention.

And I've got a good contact who attend the private board meeting yesterday. One win all year, no matter what the rebuilding theory people are reading about is unacceptable. He isnt going to be there next year.

 

[gustiger12]

The culture that Terry Wallace has implemented has dented all involved at the club and I know this for a fact. He got rid of a couple senior players that where well respected and that caused a total revolt amongst the playing group. Gaspar and Kellaway to be specific, instead of challenging the young kids, he kicked out one life member and had no respect for the other. What message does that send out? Become a life member, stiff sh!t, I'll give you the ass. Matthews, Sheedy and Malthouse dont do that. They ease in the kids, what Wallace has done is chucked them into the deep end and expected them to learn how to swim. The best coaches have respect for players, unlike Wallace who copped it when Gaspar retired. The 157 point flogging wasnt just a bad performance, that was a message to Wallace.

Kellaway was all heart and a courageous player, but lacked pace and skill. Gaspar was about the most unskilled player on our list who couldn't kick over a jam tin. He was told a few home truths and took his bat and ball and went home. These two players weren't going to take us forward. The only mistake Wallace made was keeping Gaspar on at the end of last year. (I have the utmost respect for Andrew Kellaway, made the best of what he had, but lacked key areas of the game namely pace and skill, mainly by foot). Hence no one picked him up in the PSD.

If some players want to revolt because players get moved on then move them on too. Its about the club not the individuals and half the trouble with many of the senior players is that they have been treated with kid gloves in the past and if they want to sook when players get moved on go and join them in retirement, because they are not the type of players we need in yellow and black. This is where our leadership group fall down if you ask me.

Half the people in this forum were calling for Gaspar to be dropped and when it happened he couldn't handle it......If a player doesn't want to or is not prepared to fight for his spot in the team what does that tell you about them mentally. Mentally soft in my book and that seems to be a problem that has infected too many of our senior group. Too many players been in a comfort zone for too long.

It about playing for the Richmond Football club not about Gaspar or Kellaway. Players get moved on thats part of football. Hope a few took the hint they maybe next.

 

[JR8]

Sheedy has a definite control within his team, he has coached Essendon once to a defeat more than a hundred points, Wallace has done that 5 times in 2 years.

This is innacurate Hellenic. Sheedy has coached the Bombers to 100pnt + losses on 4 occasions and another 5 occasions to 90pnt + losses.

See here: http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/essendon/gamer.html#06

Also Wallace has coached us to 4 losses of over 100pnts the last two years, not 5.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Kellaway was all heart and a courageous player, but lacked pace and skill. Gaspar was about the most unskilled player on our list who couldn't kick over a jam tin. He was told a few home truths and took his bat and ball and went home. These two players weren't going to take us forward. The only mistake Wallace made was keeping Gaspar on at the end of last year. (I have the utmost respect for Andrew Kellaway, made the best of what he had, but lacked key areas of the game namely pace and skill, mainly by foot). Hence no one picked him up in the PSD.

If some players want to revolt because players get moved on then move them on too. Its about the club not the individuals and half the trouble with many of the senior players is that they have been treated with kid gloves in the past and if they want to sook when players get moved on go and join them in retirement, because they are not the type of players we need in yellow and black. This is where our leadership group fall down if you ask me.

Half the people in this forum were calling for Gaspar to be dropped and when it happened he couldn't handle it......If a player doesn't want to or is not prepared to fight for his spot in the team what does that tell you about them mentally. Mentally soft in my book and that seems to be a problem that has infected too many of our senior group. Too many players been in a comfort zone for too long.

It about playing for the Richmond Football club not about Gaspar or Kellaway. Players get moved on thats part of football. Hope a few took the hint they maybe next.

Here, here gus.
LMAO comparisons with Essendon & Richmond re senior players.
Sheedy has cut his fair share of questionable senior players as well.
kellaway and Gaspar would have likely not even been playing seniors at the Bombers in their last few years.

 

[newyorktiger]

Derek Kickett says G'day!

 

[Elmer]

Apparently that white 4 wheel drive of his now has a Richmond sticker on the back of it.....covering over some funny looking red sort of sticker underneath it ? Weird.

No, Sheeds is more a "Magic Happens" bumper sticker person.

I thought it read: My other club's a Tiger
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[Phar Ace]

The culture that Terry Wallace has implemented has dented all involved at the club and I know this for a fact. He got rid of a couple senior players that where well respected and that caused a total revolt amongst the playing group. Gaspar and Kellaway to be specific, instead of challenging the young kids, he kicked out one life member and had no respect for the other. What message does that send out? Become a life member, stiff sh!t, I'll give you the ass. Matthews, Sheedy and Malthouse dont do that. They ease in the kids, what Wallace has done is chucked them into the deep end and expected them to learn how to swim. The best coaches have respect for players, unlike Wallace who copped it when Gaspar retired. The 157 point flogging wasnt just a bad performance, that was a message to Wallace.

The senior players will be sorted out, its not that big a deal, but Sheedy has a definite control within his team, he has coached Essendon once to a defeat more than a hundred points, Wallace has done that 5 times in 2 years. Sheedy can produce with any list, his team this year is not even that good, but they manage to stay within finals contention.

And I've got a good contact who attend the private board meeting yesterday. One win all year, no matter what the rebuilding theory people are reading about is unacceptable. He isnt going to be there next year.

Based on your contact who apparently attends private RFC board meetings:

Are you say Sheedy isn't going to be at RFC in 2008 or are you saying categorically that Wallace won't be at the RFC next year?

 

[hellenictiger]

Kellaway was a champion and was hung out to dry, was shown no respect, not even given a send off. Dont tell me he wasnt a good role model. He was the closest thing to Glen Archer we had and Wallace gave him the ass. Gaspar was offered a lifeline then half way through the season got told we are starting a rebuilding process.This isnt about the players, its about the coach, Terry Wallace has changed and if he wanted a youth policy from day one, we would have seen in 2005. We didnt see it until this year in full. I know Wallace changed his tone and his opinion half way through to back his case up.

I remember playing footy, it was all about the club, you have no mates, especially if you have played all your senior football at the one club. You are with the same blokes for 10 years straight and then one gets shown the door coldly and the other one just leaves, is it all hi and bye. Or do you look at it and think, well these are life members at the club, All Australians and then what example does this set?

You cant rebuild without role models and real Richmond people, Terry Wallace has created a side full of rejects and new faces. Bowden, Richardson and Newman are the only ones that can warrant the captaincy if Kane Johnson steps down.

Mark my word, Wallace has stuffed the club and the culture amongst the playing group.

 

[BladeTiger]

Kellaway was a champion and was hung out to dry, was shown no respect, not even given a send off. Dont tell me he wasnt a good role model. He was the closest thing to Glen Archer we had and Wallace gave him the ass. Gaspar was offered a lifeline then half way through the season got told we are starting a rebuilding process.This isnt about the players, its about the coach, Terry Wallace has changed and if he wanted a youth policy from day one, we would have seen in 2005. We didnt see it until this year in full. I know Wallace changed his tone and his opinion half way through to back his case up.

I remember playing footy, it was all about the club, you have no mates, especially if you have played all your senior football at the one club. You are with the same blokes for 10 years straight and then one gets shown the door coldly and the other one just leaves, is it all hi and bye. Or do you look at it and think, well these are life members at the club, All Australians and then what example does this set?

You cant rebuild without role models and real Richmond people, Terry Wallace has created a side full of rejects and new faces. Bowden, Richardson and Newman are the only ones that can warrant the captaincy if Kane Johnson steps down.

Mark my word, Wallace has stuffed the club and the culture amongst the playing group.

Mate, if this is even half true then that is quite scary. Totally agree with the shoddy treatment handed out to Kellaway and Gaspar. Fair enough their time was up (though I still think we could have used a strong body in Kellaway this year) but they should have been allowed to retire with some dignity. Even Frawley learnt from his mistake with Matthew Knights and gave Duncan Kellaway and Matthew Rogers a respectable send off. However, I still don't forgive Frawley for his disgusting treatment of Matty Knights.

 

[Tigers2011]

What about giving Matthew Rogers one more game to get him to 200. I thought that it was very poor in that dismal season that a spot couldn't have been found for Rogers to play one more match.

 

[meltiger]

Maybe he was going to the Royal for a quickie.

and a beer!

:hihi LOL!

 

[BladeTiger]

What about giving Matthew Rogers one more game to get him to 200. I thought that it was very poor in that dismal season that a spot couldn't have been found for Rogers to play one more match.

Good point. Forgot about that. Was he ever fit enough that year to get on the park?

 

[Al Bundy]

What about giving Matthew Rogers one more game to get him to 200. I thought that it was very poor in that dismal season that a spot couldn't have been found for Rogers to play one more match.

Good point. Forgot about that. Was he ever fit enough that year to get on the park?

The season was dead, M R wanted to get to his 200 to retire but Frawley & assistant coaches didnt want it to happen. Damn he was even staring in his last game & IMO he was dragged in that game not to upset the tanking (coaching style) that was going on then to get Lids (1st draft choice).

 

[BladeTiger]

What about giving Matthew Rogers one more game to get him to 200. I thought that it was very poor in that dismal season that a spot couldn't have been found for Rogers to play one more match.

Good point. Forgot about that. Was he ever fit enough that year to get on the park?

The season was dead, M R wanted to get to his 200 to retire but Frawley & assistant coaches didnt want it to happen. Damn he was even staring in his last game & IMO he was dragged in that game not to upset the tanking (coaching style) that was going on then to get Lids (1st draft choice).

Cheers Al. Have wiped out most of 2004 but vaguely remember Rogers was dragged in the first quarter after a good start. Yes, Frawley was a nasty piece of work.

 

[hellenictiger]

The same thing happened when Matty Knights retired, no one wanted to have anything to do with Frawley after that.

Sheedy gave Kicket the ass, was that before or after they found him on the side of the road paraletic during the finals? That never cost him the flag thats for sure! His moves have also never sent Essendon to rock bottom.

And sorry, I made a mistake with that 100 point stat, Wallace is doing well in the 3 years, compared to Sheedy's 27. Can you post exactly how many times we have been done by 100 and also by 80 plus in the last 3 years under Terry.

 

[Al Bundy]

What about giving Matthew Rogers one more game to get him to 200. I thought that it was very poor in that dismal season that a spot couldn't have been found for Rogers to play one more match.

Good point. Forgot about that. Was he ever fit enough that year to get on the park?

The season was dead, M R wanted to get to his 200 to retire but Frawley & assistant coaches didnt want it to happen. Damn he was even staring in his last game & IMO he was dragged in that game not to upset the tanking (coaching style) that was going on then to get Lids (1st draft choice).

Cheers Al. Have wiped out most of 2004 but vaguely remember Rogers was dragged in the first quarter after a good start. Yes, Frawley was a nasty piece of work.

Cool. of memory he had 26 possession to half time and some vintage passing on both feet to Richo for a couple of goals, starring in the midfield. Yeah the rot was set.

Sheedy gave Kicket the ass, was that before or after they found him on the side of the road paraletic during the finals? That never cost him the flag thats for sure! His moves have also never sent Essendon to rock bottom.

hey Hellenic, was D K found drunk during the finals series (prior to which game?).
What a nut case if true, then he deserves what he got & it did send the right message to the players as they won the flag. If Sheedy kept it quite I believe that was good not to create a scandal back towards to the player.