Building a Premiership

[Tigerfan]

this could be our next premiership team

Raines ????????? thursfield
newman ?????? Polo
Deledio .....Tuck oakleys
Pettifer Hughes ...meyer
jackson Schulz tambling
Pattison Coughlan Foley
Graeme Howat White Casserley

when they've had a few seasons together in the gym and on the battle-ground

 

[sam_reeves]

i cant see raines staying that deep in the backline. I believe that he will make a push into the middle by that then. Deledio in the centre, coughlan on the wing/bench.

 

[the claw]

to me when we talk interstate teams the greatest advantage they have is their home grounds and their wealth.

Open your eyes, you live in WA claw, those are minor symptoms of the true problem; IGNORE THE STRUCTURE OF INTERSTATE FOOTBALL AT YOUR PERIL. The boards and financial underwriting of the interstate franchises are controlled by state governments and/or the AFL. In Victoria we have quaint little membership based clubs from a bygone era that fight each other for everything, sponsors, players, coaches, media exposure, facilities, fixtures, telecasts etc, all of which we have less of than every single interstate franchise.

How about this, a Victorian Football Commission established by government that owns all club licenses, has control of purse strings, has appointment and/or veto rights for boards, has a 10 year management plan for facilities, lobbies the AFL for proportional overrepresentation on the Commission, and represents the interests of Victorian Football. Furthermore it adopts the following policies as a starting position, no interstate teams to play at the MCG more than once every two years, player list imbalances to be eliminated, salary cap anomolies to be eliminated, free to air telecasts for all Victorian club matches. Then, and only then will Victoria come close to being on a level playing field because thats what happens in every single state.

Just at this moment I would have thought a political party with a well articulated Football Commission platform would sweep to power in November 25.

bj i agree with you by christ ive espoused the same thoughts often enough. ive just highlighted the more relevant and obvious on field causes.

 

[craig]

this could be our next premiership team

Raines ????????? thursfield
newman ??????    Polo
Deledio .....Tuck   oakleys
Pettifer    Hughes ...meyer
jackson   Schulz   tambling
Pattison Coughlan Foley
Graeme Howat  White  Casserley

when they've had a few seasons together in the gym and on the battle-ground

Unless they improve outta sight i cant see the likes of Graham, Sculz, Jackson, being at RFC by then DDT, also too early to say Casserly, Foley, Howat are gonna kick on to the highest level yet either, your optimism is comendable but with an average of 5 - 7 player turnover a year for the next few years there may very well be a few of those guys who aint tigers by the time we are in a position to threaten the finals seriously.

 

[Bill James]

to me when we talk interstate teams the greatest advantage they have is their home grounds and their wealth.

Open your eyes, you live in WA claw, those are minor symptoms of the true problem; IGNORE THE STRUCTURE OF INTERSTATE FOOTBALL AT YOUR PERIL. The boards and financial underwriting of the interstate franchises are controlled by state governments and/or the AFL. In Victoria we have quaint little membership based clubs from a bygone era that fight each other for everything, sponsors, players, coaches, media exposure, facilities, fixtures, telecasts etc, all of which we have less of than every single interstate franchise.

How about this, a Victorian Football Commission established by government that owns all club licenses, has control of purse strings, has appointment and/or veto rights for boards, has a 10 year management plan for facilities, lobbies the AFL for proportional overrepresentation on the Commission, and represents the interests of Victorian Football. Furthermore it adopts the following policies as a starting position, no interstate teams to play at the MCG more than once every two years, player list imbalances to be eliminated, salary cap anomolies to be eliminated, free to air telecasts for all Victorian club matches. Then, and only then will Victoria come close to being on a level playing field because thats what happens in every single state.

Just at this moment I would have thought a political party with a well articulated Football Commission platform would sweep to power in November 25.

bj i agree with you by christ ive espoused the same thoughts often enough. ive just highlighted the more relevant and obvious on field  causes.

Its seems to me that those of us who live in Vic can see the problem but those who live in WA/SA can see the solution more clearly. I read the tripe on the off field board about memberships, voting, boards etc and tear my hair out. This is not a problem that members and boards can actually fix but it doesn't stop the misguided from believing they can.

 

[Tango]

White Perry Thursfield
JON Polak Polo
Tambling Deledio Raines
Newman Hughes Coughlan
Pettifer Schulz Meyer

Pattison Proud Foley

Graeme Howat Casserley ?


this looks better

 

[Djevv]

Heres my RFC premiership 2009 side! To me this is where Wallace is headed with his recruiting. I've only included players I'm sure could cut it. Under each player is [age sept 2009, no. games 2009, height, weight]

B:  Thursfield                            ???                     Newman
      [23, 46, 190, 76]                                          [27, 156, 183, 84]
HB: Polo                                   ???                     J. Bowden
      [23, 70, 187, 78]                                          [31, 275, 188, 90]
C:   Tambling                      Raines                      Deledio
      [23, 80, 179, 79]         [23, 70, 182, 79]       [22, 101, 188, 90]
HF: Pettifer                              ???                      ???
      [27, 140, 184, 84]
F:    ???                              Richardson                 Brown
                                         [34, 275, 197, 105]    [31, 250, 183, 80]
R:      Simmonds                 Coughlan                  Foley
       [31, 206, 196, 99]     [27, 151, 187, 84]        [24, 79, 177, 71]
Bench: Tuck                          P.Bowden                    White                    ???(2nd Ruck)
            [27, 105, 188, 89]    [28, 120, 191, 91]       [22, 70, 179, 78]

The forward line gaps should be filled by Hughes, *smile*, Limbach, Meyer and possibly a draftee (2006)

The backline gaps, as we all know is where the problem lies.

The midfield set up requires a lot of faith, but in three years time, who knows?

 

[tigerjoe12]

where'd u get thursfields weight? surely that can't be right

think at his size he would be in the spine, maybe add to that backline one or two of olak,thornton,perry,haddrill, draft pick '06

could probably also add a draft pick '06 to each the fwd line and midfield

the young mids r quality, with patience hopefully they could be the core of something similiar to the eagles '06 midfield.

hopefully judd=deledio, cousins=raines, kerr=tambling, fletcher=meyer, add coughlan,tuck,johnson,foley,plus draft pick '06 to the rotation and in a cpl of years that sounds half decent

 

[Djevv]

where'd u get thursfields weight? surely that can't be right

Off the RFC site. I think it is a couple of years out of date!

 

[Tigerfan]

you may be right Craig

great effort djevv

 

[pahoffm]

AFL.com has an interesting article on how each of the GF teams were formed.

A summary:

TRADES:

Sydney - 6
Paul Williams - 2000 (now retired)
Barry Hall - 2001
Nick Davis - 2002
Darren Jolly - 2004
Ted Richards - 2005
Paul Chambers - 2005

Westcoast - 4
Phillip Matera - 1995 (now retired)
Daniel Chick - 2002
Damien Adkins - 2002
Tyson Stenglein - 2004

ZONE SELECTIONS:

Sydney - 3
Leo Barry - 1994
Ben Mathews - 1995
Lewis Roberts-Thomson - 2001 NAB AFL Draft (No.29) (Developing markets selection)

Westcoast - 0

FATHER/SON SELECTIONS:

Sydney - 2
Stephen Doyle - 1999 NAB AFL Draft (No.26)
Sean Dempster - 2002 NAB AFL Draft (No.34)

West Coast - 2
Ben Cousins - 1995
Mitch Morton - 2004 NAB AFL Draft (No.44)

NAB AFL DRAFT:

Sydney - 20
Michael O'Loughlin - 1994 (No.40)
Jared Crouch - 1995 (No.8)
Adam Goodes - 1997 (No.43)
Nic Fosdike - 1998 (No.3)
Jude Bolton - 1998 (No.8)
Ryan O'Keefe - 1999 (No.56)
Adam Schneider - 2001 (No.60)
Luke Ablett - 2000 (No.24)
Jarrad McVeigh - 2002 (No.5)
Nick Malceski - 2002 (No.64)
Josh Willoughby - 2003 (No.16)
Tim Schmidt - 2003 (No.29)
Amon Buchanan - 2003 (No.45)
Andrew Ericksen - 2003 (No.47)
Matthew Davis - 2003 (No.59)
Jarred Moore - 2004 (No.31)
David Spriggs - 2004 (No.47)
Matthew Laidlaw - 2005 (No.51)
Kristin Thornton - 2005 (No.54)
Ryan Brabazon - 2005 (No.59)

West Coast - 24
Drew Banfield - 1992 (No.1) 
Michael Gardiner - 1996 (No.1)
Josh Wooden - 1996 (No.24)
Michael Braun - 1996 (No.53)
Rowan Jones - 1997 (No.28)
Andrew Embley - 1998 (No.57)
Darren Glass - 1999 (No.11) 
Travis Gaspar - 1999 (No.14)
Adam Hunter - 1999 (No.29)
Andrew McDougall - 2000 (No.5)
Daniel Kerr - 2000 (No.18)
Chris Judd - 2001 (No.3)
Ashley Sampi - 2001 (No.6)
Mark Seaby - 2001 (No.22)
Ashley Hansen - 2001 (No.38)
Brent Staker - 2002 (No.37)
Adam Selwood - 2002 (No.53)
Beau Waters - 2003 (No.11)
Sam Butler - 2003 (No.20)
Matt Rosa - 2004 (No.29)
Brad Smith - 2004 (No.57)
Mark LeCras - 2004 (No.37)
Shannon Hurn - 2005 (No.13)
Ben McKinley - 2005 (No.29)
Matt Spangher - 2005 (No.34)

Yep.
So the draft is the way to go, then fill in the holes with some trades.