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Bye Bye Jack Higgins!

zippadeee

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Oct 8, 2004
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Lets not cry Higgins left, seriously we fked up bad recruiting him at pick 17 in the first place.
We should be all hoping that stkilda finishing back in the bottom 4 and getting a pick between 22-25 for Higgins would be a great outcome.
 
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tigersnake

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set shots improved dramatically, don't think he kicked 2 from outside 35m in his whole time at the tiges.
 
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Number8

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Oct 12, 2010
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Butler at his best offered more than Higgins but as we came to learn Butler was invisible when the heat was on. One of his last games was against Port at AO. He was so scared it was laughable, Dimma lost all faith in him after that and he was done as a RFC player. Saints fans are now discovering what we all knew. He is a total CAT
Ghost, we've been through this before.

Butler did not play against Port Adelaide in 2019.

It's a figment of your fertile imagination, made up nonsense to validate a dud point of view.

Continuing to say it won't make it real.
 
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BillyJean17

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Butler at his best offered more than Higgins but as we came to learn Butler was invisible when the heat was on. One of his last games was against Port at AO. He was so scared it was laughable, Dimma lost all faith in him after that and he was done as a RFC player. Saints fans are now discovering what we all knew. He is a total CAT
Higgo will play a lot more football than butler, has a natural feel for the game, only thing holding him back is he has no real weapons other than Goal nous which is a decent trait but lack of pace I feel will hold him back from being a really decent player
 
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Dont Argue

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Jun 26, 2018
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Higgins may not be electric quick by foot but is lightning quick of mind and has elite endurance ( he came 4th around the tan time trial in his first year ) He’s been running with Bohdan Babachek for years and is a very efficient runner.
He will eck out a reasonable career at the Saints but was in no way worth pick 17. His standing was due to a sensational under age year where he took all before him in SuperCoach points. Whatever that means??
 
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fastin bulbous

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Ghost, we've been through this before.

Butler did not play against Port Adelaide in 2019.

It's a figment of your fertile imagination, made up nonsense to validate a dud point of view.

Continuing to say it won't make it real.
Yeh he went missing- goodness!!
 
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DavidSSS

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Dec 11, 2017
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Butler is a good footballer & forever a Richmond Premiership player. Still popular with our group too. Not his fault that he was moved on.

Yep, good footballer, but was on the fringe of our team for various reasons. Injury, we have a fair number of small forwards etc. He went for opportunity and I can't say I blame him, the opportunity was there at StKilda and he is clearly good enough to get regular AFL games and to have an impact. I suspect in the wrong place to try and fight his way back into the team.

He wanted to go, he was on the fringe, he gets regular games and plays well for StKilda - good luck to him.

DS
 
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Ricemagic

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Higgins may not be electric quick by foot but is lightning quick of mind and has elite endurance ( he came 4th around the tan time trial in his first year ) He’s been running with Bohdan Babachek for years and is a very efficient runner.
He will eck out a reasonable career at the Saints but was in no way worth pick 17. His standing was due to a sensational under age year where he took all before him in SuperCoach points. Whatever that means??
Yes he had the highest recorded junior Supercoach average, higher than next best Gary Ablett Jnr. I was very high on him for that reason, he was a gunn as a kid. But about a year ago I read things from other recruiters from other clubs and they weren't high on him improving, they thought his best had arrived as all he wanted to be was an AFL Footballer and therefore he was way ahead of other 15, 16 years who weren't 100% into it like him, they obviously took an interest in their schooling.

So we took the chance he'd improve but he just plateaud and lots of them kids are now just as good and many are way better.

I have therefore revised my research and reviewing young players, adding the factor off whether they had reached their best or not before playing AFL Football, the Higgins effect :mhihi
 
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Dont Argue

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Yes he had the highest recorded junior Supercoach average, higher than next best Gary Ablett Jnr. I was very high on him for that reason, he was a gunn as a kid. But about a year ago I read things from other recruiters from other clubs and they weren't high on him improving, they thought his best had arrived as all he wanted to be was an AFL Footballer and therefore he was way ahead of other 15, 16 years who weren't 100% into it like him, they obviously took an interest in their schooling.

So we took the chance he'd improve but he just plateaud and lots of them kids are now just as good and many are way better.

I have therefore revised my research and reviewing young players, adding the factor off whether they had reached their best or not before playing AFL Football, the Higgins effect :mhihi
If you happen to discover a formula for working out whether a player has reached their best before playing AFL, please pass it on to Mathew Clarke.
It would be worth a fortune!!!
 
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tigerman

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Mar 17, 2003
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Time will tell on Aarts, his contribution from less games has been as good as what Higgins was. Aarts was still a rookie last year, Higgins leaving would've freed up some cap space.
 

caesar

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Feb 9, 2015
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Yes he had the highest recorded junior Supercoach average, higher than next best Gary Ablett Jnr. I was very high on him for that reason, he was a gunn as a kid. But about a year ago I read things from other recruiters from other clubs and they weren't high on him improving, they thought his best had arrived as all he wanted to be was an AFL Footballer and therefore he was way ahead of other 15, 16 years who weren't 100% into it like him, they obviously took an interest in their schooling.

So we took the chance he'd improve but he just plateaud and lots of them kids are now just as good and many are way better.

I have therefore revised my research and reviewing young players, adding the factor off whether they had reached their best or not before playing AFL Football, the Higgins effect :mhihi
Many recruiters thought Jack Graham was a man child and had reached his potential with no upside ;) :)
 
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