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Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git

taraba

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Those commenting on Jack staying on are missing the point. CJ wants to play in the ruck and is third choice behind Nank and Ivan. Don’t think he’d have stayed even if offered regular forward time next year.
 
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Carter

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Those commenting on Jack staying on are missing the point. CJ wants to play in the ruck and is third choice behind Nank and Ivan. Don’t think he’d have stayed even if offered regular forward time next year.
I reckon the whole 'I wanna ruck' thing is a ruse

he didn't fancy standing in line behind Jack for another year and good luck to him
 
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TheCan

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CCJ will be part Grundy part Ottens, except this kid has natural gunt in him, I believe at North given 22 AFL games development, he will be unbelievable in 2023 as a hybrid Ruck-Forward. i am spewing we cant accomidate, I hope they think Samson Ryan is going to be better...I just worry he has QLD return home written all over him.
Anyways I wont comment anymore on CCJ, I just reckon north have been into him all year, was never staying.
 

CarnTheTiges

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CCJ will be part Grundy part Ottens, except this kid has natural gunt in him, I believe at North given 22 AFL games development, he will be unbelievable in 2023 as a hybrid Ruck-Forward. i am spewing we cant accomidate, I hope they think Samson Ryan is going to be better...I just worry he has QLD return home written all over him.
Anyways I wont comment anymore on CCJ, I just reckon north have been into him all year, was never staying.
Probably true that #lolnorf have been into him for a while. As said on the Tarrant thread these things don’t take place overnight.
 

momentai

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Jul 24, 2004
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I think our list management team really rate Mate Colina and think in a short space of time he will give us some unique and exciting attributes that CCJ can never give.
CCJ will be a good player but not a game changer. Adequate ruck and reasonable forward but not elite at either. Mate has size, strength and smarts.
Watch this space.
Is this rumour or based on what the list manages have told you?
He has terrific credentials but until your post we have heard literally nothing.
 

Aegean Tiger

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Letting CCJ go was always about the compensation we receive in return. Anything less than pick 20 will be a poor return.
 
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BillyJean17

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CCJ will be part Grundy part Ottens, except this kid has natural gunt in him, I believe at North given 22 AFL games development, he will be unbelievable in 2023 as a hybrid Ruck-Forward. i am spewing we cant accomidate, I hope they think Samson Ryan is going to be better...I just worry he has QLD return home written all over him.
Anyways I wont comment anymore on CCJ, I just reckon north have been into him all year, was never staying.
CCJ hasn’t really demonstrated any genuine ruck craft yet , nowhere near soldo capability , I accept he may well develop at express with sustained opportunities Grundy otters is a fair stretch. Fwiw Ryan was a keen tigers fan growing up , we ve had great success of holding onto players interstate ones included, CCJ is first for a while , always a danger when players don’t get games, it’s the greatest pre cursor to leaving
 
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leon

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Those commenting on Jack staying on are missing the point. CJ wants to play in the ruck and is third choice behind Nank and Ivan. Don’t think he’d have stayed even if offered regular forward time next year.
But we played and relied on just one ruck in 2017 for a flag and in 2018 when we should have, with Grigg as relief. It worked well for us. Only after that PF loss that we changed tack to probably make sure Nank wasn't exhausted and getting too knocked around. Hence Soldo came along in 2019 and became part of each b2b flag side.

However, there might be some games where we can't play both due to injury, or tactically don't want to play 2 slower, heavy-duty rucks. Neither offer much threat down forward. Then CCJ is ideal. Plus JR is going 34 this season; you don't get better; you slow down and are perhaps one injury away from the end. CCJ has the advantage of being able to take his spot, or Lynch's if injured either.

Then, if Jack goes during/after 2022, CCJ slots in ongoing. [Ditto even for Chol even although CCJ should have more upside]. Furthermore, Lynch is too proppy to do any serious rucking on the ball.

I see it as a serious setback for us, especially to lose both of these tall options. Finding and developing another high quality KPF to replace JR8 could take years. CCJ would have possibly done that, at least for the foreseeable future.
 
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daniel30

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No point crying about it if he wants out simple as that ala Higgins didn't want to stick around fight for his place and his getting 4 years at roos.
 
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spook

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CCJ will be part Grundy part Ottens, except this kid has natural gunt in him, I believe at North given 22 AFL games development, he will be unbelievable in 2023 as a hybrid Ruck-Forward. i am spewing we cant accomidate, I hope they think Samson Ryan is going to be better...I just worry he has QLD return home written all over him.
Anyways I wont comment anymore on CCJ, I just reckon north have been into him all year, was never staying.
I think you overrate him. We'll see.

Ryan is a lifelong Richmond fan from a Richmond-mad family. Playing for the Tigers is a dream come true for him.
 
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snags

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Is this rumour or based on what the list manages have told you?
He has terrific credentials but until your post we have heard literally nothing.
He's not a done deal either. He has one more season in Hawaii lots can change between now and then. A contract in the NBA or more likely Europe and we'd lose him.
 

Dyer'ere

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Sep 21, 2004
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The issue is, we could get nothing. Hoping for pick 20, but it seems to be wishful thinking.

The scuttlebutt is that he has agreed to be traded, not walk to the PSD, StK. And #20 is about what we're entitled to for a 22yo fwd/ruck. But I agree that we're looking down the barrel of worse than that. I'd cop the upgrade of #26.
 
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UKTiger

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Letting CCJ go was always about the compensation we receive in return. Anything less than pick 20 will be a poor return.
Any compensation we are likely to get regarding Chol and CCJ will depend on which club has the best horse traders and with Tarrant now in the mix, it is going to be interesting so I doubt any compo will be much
 

eddazol

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Sep 22, 2014
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No point crying about it if he wants out simple as that ala Higgins didn't want to stick around fight for his place and his getting 4 years at roos.
He can play in front of no crowds. And that is after Covid.
 

craig

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Aug 19, 2004
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Shame. I like CJ and reckon he'll be a good player. Mistake giving games to Chol this year ahead of CJ who's had more than enough chances. Poor call by the MC.
He did have that ban on him for the first half of the season which didn't help his cause.
 
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