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Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git

Carter

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Probably not because I'm more inclined to target the power forwards, Amiss does have some outstanding qualities, he's a superb set shot, very Gunston like. Perhaps not a player type I'd spend a top 10 pick on, but ok value around the twenties. Think we have to play to the draft's strengths and that is undoubtedly midfielders, plenty of depth in that area and our midfield stocks look sickly at the top end. No dramas with Dusty but Cotch & Prestia look like they're on their last legs, Ross doesn't do it for me, Dow looks too outside, RCD promising but lagging in the tank building department. We can fix all of that this year & hopefully find a suitable replacement for Houli.

Good stuff mate and agree with all except for Prestia. Think he’s still good for a couple of years.
 

TOT70

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The Deledio trade is the silver bullet.
Deledio traded in 2016 for GWS’s first and third round picks in 2017. The first round pick started life as Geelong’s first rounder, which they traded to Carlton for Zach Tuohy. Carlton then gave it to GWS for Marchbank and Jarrod Pickett. GWS gave it to Richmond for Deledio.

In 2017, the first round pick was split into picks 20 and 25. CCJ and Balta.

Some of the points from the third round pick were used for Naish, along with Richmond’s own third round pick. The leftover points became pick 63, which was used on Miller.

Now the CCJ portion has been combined with two third round picks to net Tarrant, pick 40 and next year’s NM second rounder. One of those third round picks was traded in for Markov.

pick 40 will probably be combined and upgraded.

Therefore, bits of the Deledio trade have helped us net Balta, Miller and Tarrant. CCJ and Naish also but they are both gone.

And there is still one more player to add this year and one more next year.

BTW, I like the way Hartley negotiates. He adds detail and complexity which inevitably causes confusion. I wonder how much energy North expended arguing over including picks 40 and 42 in the trade?
 
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wigglyworm

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The Deledio trade is the silver bullet.
Deledio traded in 2016 for GWS’s first and third round picks in 2017. The first round pick started life as Geelong’s first rounder, which they traded to Carlton for Zach Tuohy. Carlton then gave it to GWS for Marchbank and Jarrod Pickett. GWS gave it to Richmond for Deledio.

In 2017, the first round pick was split into picks 20 and 25. CCJ and Balta.

Some of the points from the third round pick were used for Naish, along with Richmond’s own third round pick. The leftover points became pick 63, which was used on Miller.

Now the CCJ portion has been combined with two third round picks to net Tarrant, pick 40 and next year’s NM second rounder. One of those third round picks was traded in for Markov.

pick 40 will probably be combined and upgraded.

Therefore, bits of the Deledio trade have helped us net Balta, Miller and Tarrant. CCJ and Naish also but they are both gone.

And there is still one more player to add this year and one more next year.

BTW, I like the way Hartley negotiates. He adds complexity which inevitably causes confusion. I wonder how much energy North expanded arguing over including picks 40 and 42 in the trade?
My god. How do you sit down and work that one out
 

TOT70

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My god. How do you sit down and work that one out
Google Is your friend.

Just been working in the garden all afternoon and have managed to convince MRS TOT that my back is now sore and I just have to lie on a heat pack for an undisclosed period of time. Number 1 son is bbqing a leg of lamb and MRS TOT even brought me a cuppa.

PRE is the beneficiary. You’re welcome.
 
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Willo

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Maybe, but I've always said a no DH policy comes with an asterix that says unless they can play footy well.

Dustin would have been sacked three times if we were serious about that.

I suspect a few things have happened to cause this mess, firstly having too much love for Riewoldt to make the hard call on moving him on. Secondly I think the long term deals we have with Dustin and Lynch have made our cap impossible to manage without the increases we would have anticipated along the way and lastly I think we hoped he would toe the line and stay after the kebab incident so prioritised him less.
I thought CCJ wanted the opportunity to ruck. Also thought he was told he was behind Nank& Soldo for that positio.
At norf he’ll have more opportunity to play (2nd) ruck or even 1st when Goldsteinplays forward.
Im not sure how Reiwoldt playing on affected CCJ’s decision to move
 
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tigerman

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Google Is your friend.

Just been working in the garden all afternoon and have managed to convince MRS TOT that my back is now sore and I just have to lie on a heat pack for an undisclosed period of time. Number 1 son is bbqing a leg of lamb and MRS TOT even brought me a cuppa.

PRE is the beneficiary. You’re welcome.
Your back hurts from the garden, my head hurts from trying to understand your Delidio silver bullet post :)) ;)
 
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bullus_hit

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Whats your thoughts on Ryan? He's a big boy, could he be that power forward, and then we could have a JVR as the more mobile forward replacing Jack.
I could see him having a Stafford like presence and that's no disrespect.
 
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craig

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Probably not because I'm more inclined to target the power forwards, Amiss does have some outstanding qualities, he's a superb set shot, very Gunston like. Perhaps not a player type I'd spend a top 10 pick on, but ok value around the twenties. Think we have to play to the draft's strengths and that is undoubtedly midfielders, plenty of depth in that area and our midfield stocks look sickly at the top end. No dramas with Dusty but Cotch & Prestia look like they're on their last legs, Ross doesn't do it for me, Dow looks too outside, RCD promising but lagging in the tank building department. We can fix all of that this year & hopefully find a suitable replacement for Houli.
Cheers Bully thanks for the insight appreciated
 

leon

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Seems to have a lot more agility than Stafford.
Yes well very young still and hasn't stacked on the kgs of muscle yet that he will need to compete against the really big boys of AFL ruckmen e.g. it was no wonder Chol really struggled against Freo's Darcy; spotting him 20kgs.

With the at least 10kgs added to Ryan, must be some loss of agility too.
 

HeadandShin

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I am certainly not for rabidly sticking pins in voodoo dolls, but there is something unlikeable about CCJ.

Can play, has talent, but just might be nudging our no DH policy a bit far.

I wonder if he’d been offered a fatter contract if he was a better bloke
Someone with good links into the club told me he was entitled and not particularly popular, and the club isn’t too fussed about losing him. Still, I’m disappointed (and you could maybe have said that about Jack in the early days).
 
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zgod

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*smile* off CCJ.
How dare you maximize your career opportunities and grab a chance!!
Dead in my book but I guess there is a reason.
Still, how dare he leave. You can't leave unless pushed.
 

King Kong

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I thought CCJ wanted the opportunity to ruck. Also thought he was told he was behind Nank& Soldo for that positio.
At norf he’ll have more opportunity to play (2nd) ruck or even 1st when Goldsteinplays forward.
Im not sure how Reiwoldt playing on affected CCJ’s decision to move
The talk about more ruck time is complete BS. He left for one reason only $
 
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