Can we handle to lose

[French Tiger]

Richo,Bowden,Brown,Simmonds,Johnson & Cousins all at the end of this yr ?

I know hardly any of them are giving us anything,but if we delisted all of them,we still have alot of dead wood to clear etc,meaning roughly a 3rd of the list would be turned over & by all accounts this yr's draft is not deep.

Maybe keep Richo & perhaps Bowden (form permitting) & Cousins (fitness permitting) for 1 mr yr ?

Be one hell of a send of game if all 6 retired.

Thoughts ?

 

[Backbone]

Richo,Bowden,Brown,Simmonds,Johnson & Cousins all at the end of this yr ?

I know hardly any of them are giving us anything,but if we delisted all of them,we still have alot of dead wood to clear etc,meaning roughly a 3rd of the list would be turned over & by all accounts this yr's draft is not deep.

Maybe keep Richo & perhaps Bowden (form permitting) & Cousins (fitness permitting) for 1 mr yr ?

Be one hell of a send of game if all 6 retired.

Thoughts ?

The key point that many people (ferals if you wish) are missing here about delisting all of the 30+'s is that we're only likely to pick up 4 players in the ND and promote maybe 2 rookies (Nahas and Browne at this stage). It means if we delist more than 6 players, (ie. all of six 30+'s and some other deadwood - say Schulz and Hughes), we go into next year with a short list.

Going into next year with a short list is a strategically dumb thing to do given the compromised drafts that are coming up.

The problem really manifests on the talls

We can't, from a structure perspective delist Schulz, Hughes, Richo and Simmo as we'd be delisting 4 taller types - something we unfortunately don't have in abundance. ATM we have Post, Putt, Vickery, Patto, Gus, Richo, Simmo, Schulz, Hughes, and Gourdis and Browne on the rookie list. Put it another way, two dinosaurs, two could-a-beens (schulz, hughes) and 5 other "no certainties", and 2 rookies. What ever way you look at it, given the drafts that will be coming up over the next few years, we're playing russian roulette with our list management, especially as it relates to talls - not really a great situation given our track record.

We're really in a stupid position where we need to hold onto some older players because we haven't recruited enough talls in the past to cover our basic needs.

(ps. i think ive read too many posts from claw)

 

[theglove3]

I thought your subject implied "Can we handle to lose each week?" FT !!!

The answer being: Yes of course, we've been losing for 29 years.

But back to your topic.

Would expect Richo (as long as he gets back this year) and maybe Joel to go around again.

Browny has given nought this year. Appears to have lost pace and desire.
Kane Gawn
Snakey Simmonds getting slower

Cuz being here next year depends on how he goes for rest of this year starting 2moro.

Can't see all 6 going at once. Would be happy for Dr Pink, Sugar and Snakey to pack up at year's end,

Then you would have to look at Petticoat Junction, Sanchez, Sarge, Steamer, The Energiser Bunny.

But as mentioned previously you can't dump them all. The draft system simply does not allow for it.

 

[the claw]

I thought your subject implied "Can we handle to lose each week?" FT !!!

The answer being: Yes of course, we've been losing for 29 years.

But back to your topic.

Would expect Richo (as long as he gets back this year) and maybe Joel to go around again.

Browny has given nought this year. Appears to have lost pace and desire.
Kane Gawn
Snakey Simmonds getting slower

Cuz being here next year depends on how he goes for rest of this year starting 2moro.

Can't see all 6 going at once. Would be happy for Dr Pink, Sugar and Snakey to pack up at year's end,

Then you would have to look at Petticoat Junction, Sanchez, Sarge, Steamer, The Energiser Bunny.

But as mentioned previously you can't dump them all. The draft system simply does not allow for it.

again i disagree. assuming we get or lets say as a club we aim at getting a pp. we would have picks going something like this give or take a spot. 2 18 19 35 51 67. i would go further and use 83. this pick i would use as a jump on the rookie system. psd pick 2. thats 8 picks. i would always every yr use my picks between 1 and 60. only two fall outside this criteria.

we have to realise the draft is the only access we have to the best 100 or so kids in the country.

 

[gold1]

again i disagree. assuming we get or lets say as a club we aim at getting a pp. we would have picks going something like this give or take a spot. 2 18 19 35 51 67. i would go further and use 83. this pick i would use as a jump on the rookie system. psd pick 2. thats 8 picks. i would always every yr use my picks between 1 and 60. only two fall outside this criteria.

we have to realise the draft is the only access we have to the best 100 or so kids in the country.

What round are we in again?

 

[Freezer]

again i disagree. assuming we get or lets say as a club we aim at getting a pp. we would have picks going something like this give or take a spot. 2 18 19 35 51 67. i would go further and use 83. this pick i would use as a jump on the rookie system. psd pick 2. thats 8 picks. i would always every yr use my picks between 1 and 60. only two fall outside this criteria.

8 spots:

Johnson, Pettifer, Polak, Brown, Simmonds, McMahon, King, Hughes.

That still leaves Schulz, Raines, Bowden, Edwards, Hislop, JON, Pattison and White with serious questions marks over their ability to take us forward.

 

[doherz]

I thought your subject implied "Can we handle to lose each week?" FT !!!

The answer being: Yes of course, we've been losing for 29 years.

But back to your topic.

Would expect Richo (as long as he gets back this year) and maybe Joel to go around again.

Browny has given nought this year. Appears to have lost pace and desire.
Kane Gawn
Snakey Simmonds getting slower

Cuz being here next year depends on how he goes for rest of this year starting 2moro.

Can't see all 6 going at once. Would be happy for Dr Pink, Sugar and Snakey to pack up at year's end,

Then you would have to look at Petticoat Junction, Sanchez, Sarge, Steamer, The Energiser Bunny.

But as mentioned previously you can't dump them all. The draft system simply does not allow for it.

Didnt i hear somewhere that the AFl was introducing free agency next year? Not that this would benefit richmond much as no player in their right mind would come to us in the present state, unless they had no other option. But it could make things interesting at least.

 

[the claw]

8 spots:

Johnson, Pettifer, Polak, Brown, Simmonds, McMahon, King, Hughes.

That still leaves Schulz, Raines, Bowden, Edwards, Hislop, JON, Pattison and White with serious questions marks over their ability to take us forward.

plus 4 rookies dont forget the rookies. its never been said by anyone that i know or by myself that you can clean them all out in one go. that will have to be done over 2 or 3 drafts hence the bottoming out calls.
oh you missed richo in that list.

 

[French Tiger]

Either way we are stuffed really.My point of the thread was if we delisted all 30 + year olds it doesn't leave us with being able to delist the Kings,Pettifer etc this yr which in turn means it is going to take at least 2 years to clean out who we already know wont cut it.

 

[skiptomystu]

Just depends on the coach we get I guess.

If by some miracle Terry stays, there is no way more than 4 of those guys will go, but who knows with a new coach?