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Cardinal George Pell, The Catholic Church and Child Sex Abuse

Ian4

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May 6, 2004
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I'll never forget the time where he said people who have abortions are worse the paedophiles. If hell does exist, he'll be rotting in there when his time comes.
 

IanG

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Sep 27, 2004
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Great news and this after all the media were assuring us that there was no doubt the Pell Appeal would be upheld.
 

eZyT

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Georgey's getting the old St.Alypius band back together in Ararat Pedo Prison.

I wonder if they will kiss his ring?
 

eZyT

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What instrument does Pell play, the fiddle.
I reckon he'll be a pretty versatile member of

The Village of The Damned house band Tman.

fiddle, horn section, flute

or he'll jump on the organ
 
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Legends of 2017

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 24, 2005
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Has Bolt commented on it yet?
:rotfl1:rotfl1:rotfl1:rotfl1
Good one.
Oh wait, were you serious? :))

I guess if you call his column where he is saying a 2-1 majority to dismiss the appeal isn't a fair result because the 1 dissenting judge voted to free him should have meant that Pell should have been freed as commenting on it, then yes, he has sooked, I mean commented' on it :)
 

IanG

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Sep 27, 2004
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:rotfl1:rotfl1:rotfl1:rotfl1
Good one.
Oh wait, were you serious? :))

I guess if you call his column where he is saying a 2-1 majority to dismiss the appeal isn't a fair result because the 1 dissenting judge voted to free him should have meant that Pell should have been freed as commenting on it, then yes, he has sooked, I mean commented' on it :)
Yeah saw that afterward, he's 'lost his trust in justice' :eek:
 

Tigers of Old

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Jul 26, 2004
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We Should Afford George Pell The Assumption Of Innocence Until Proven Guilty By Andrew Bolt
By The Shovel on March 5, 2019
EDITORIAL: There has been much written about the trial of Cardinal George Pell in recent days, a great deal of it highly critical of Australia’s highest ranking Catholic.
But although Pell was convicted of child sex offences by a panel of twelve independent jurors overseen by an experienced judge in a County Court, we should be careful not to rush to judgement.
Our criminal system is built on a simple but powerful premise: every man and woman accused of a crime is assumed innocent until found guilty by columnist Andrew Bolt. Derived from the Latin maxim ‘ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat Andrew Bolt’, it is a fundamental pillar of our democracy, and has been for centuries.
Too often in complex cases such as these we are quick to label someone a criminal, without letting the system work in the way it was designed. Too often, we judge someone based on the findings of a rigorous legal process, rather than waiting to see what Mr Bolt’s opinion on the matter may be. After all, he wasn’t there.
Unquestionably, the opinions of those twelve jurors were influenced by the fact that they were there in court at the time of the hearing, listening to the evidence. Mr Bolt’s opinions were never tarnished in such a way. At arms-length from the evidence, Bolt is better equipped to come to an objective conclusion about what took place, and – more importantly – what didn’t.
What’s more, as a close friend and confidant of George Pell, Andrew Bolt offers the sort of impartial, dispassionate judgement that a group of twelve jurors who have not met Pell never could.
How could they have known that Pell was intelligent, funny and an entertaining raconteur at dinner parties? How could they have known that Pell had an amazing knowledge of French wine? Quite simply, they couldn’t. Instead they chose to focus on the fact that Pell sexually assaulted a boy, and then they used that information to infer that he was a paedophile.
It’s biased, it’s sloppy and it’s one-sided – an example of a judge and jury arrogantly acting as if it’s judge and jury.
It’s time to let the process run as it was designed.


Spot on.:mhihi
 
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achillesjones

"just kick it to Royce"
Apr 19, 2004
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We Should Afford George Pell The Assumption Of Innocence Until Proven Guilty By Andrew Bolt
By The Shovel on March 5, 2019
EDITORIAL: There has been much written about the trial of Cardinal George Pell in recent days, a great deal of it highly critical of Australia’s highest ranking Catholic.
But although Pell was convicted of child sex offences by a panel of twelve independent jurors overseen by an experienced judge in a County Court, we should be careful not to rush to judgement.
Our criminal system is built on a simple but powerful premise: every man and woman accused of a crime is assumed innocent until found guilty by columnist Andrew Bolt. Derived from the Latin maxim ‘ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat Andrew Bolt’, it is a fundamental pillar of our democracy, and has been for centuries.
Too often in complex cases such as these we are quick to label someone a criminal, without letting the system work in the way it was designed. Too often, we judge someone based on the findings of a rigorous legal process, rather than waiting to see what Mr Bolt’s opinion on the matter may be. After all, he wasn’t there.
Unquestionably, the opinions of those twelve jurors were influenced by the fact that they were there in court at the time of the hearing, listening to the evidence. Mr Bolt’s opinions were never tarnished in such a way. At arms-length from the evidence, Bolt is better equipped to come to an objective conclusion about what took place, and – more importantly – what didn’t.
What’s more, as a close friend and confidant of George Pell, Andrew Bolt offers the sort of impartial, dispassionate judgement that a group of twelve jurors who have not met Pell never could.
How could they have known that Pell was intelligent, funny and an entertaining raconteur at dinner parties? How could they have known that Pell had an amazing knowledge of French wine? Quite simply, they couldn’t. Instead they chose to focus on the fact that Pell sexually assaulted a boy, and then they used that information to infer that he was a paedophile.
It’s biased, it’s sloppy and it’s one-sided – an example of a judge and jury arrogantly acting as if it’s judge and jury.
It’s time to let the process run as it was designed.


Spot on.:mhihi
How is a man condemned beyond reasonable doubt with a 2-1 verdict?
 

achillesjones

"just kick it to Royce"
Apr 19, 2004
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With absolutely no reasonable doubt?

Pell may well be proven to be guilty of many things, but the Media have grabbed this one with a fervour where Orwell's1984 meets Miller's The Crucible. Pell has become the figurehead of some evils that have taken place. So much of the media hysteria has been generalised attacks on the Catholic Church.

As a result, we have some of our most selfless humans in the form of good nuns and priests being scorned within their parishes.

I call this bullsh!t of the highest order.
 

IanG

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Sep 27, 2004
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With absolutely no reasonable doubt?

Pell may well be proven to be guilty of many things, but the Media have grabbed this one with a fervour where Orwell's1984 meets Miller's The Crucible. Pell has become the figurehead of some evils that have taken place. So much of the media hysteria has been generalised attacks on the Catholic Church.

As a result, we have some of our most selfless humans in the form of good nuns and priests being scorned within their parishes.

I call this bullsh!t of the highest order.
Dunno how you can say that when you haven't seen the evidence.
 
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