Casey snubs Macek

[Stu]

Spot on Boss.

How can you possibly say that post was spot on when you weren't even there?
Is is spot on because that's the post that outlines the way you want to believe it happened compared to all the other accounts that have said its a complete beat up?

If you are referring to this comment

I thought it was very poor form from Casey to snub macek and would have been a perfect time to start the unity that casey was preaching about during the meeting.

then you are going on the assumption that Casey did indeed snub Macek. Something neither you, nor I can make a judgement on as neither of us were there.

So I fail to see how his post could have possibly been spot on at all

 

[Richmond United]

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts RU.

Well CMT......its not really the Greeks that i'm concerned about.....its those Trojans!

 

[Richmond United]

Spot on Boss.

How can you possibly say that post was spot on when you weren't even there?

A self-fulfilling fantasy perhaps.....

Anyway, you would think that a man who was positioning himself to become president of an AFL football club would have the necessary strength and conviction to make himself heard!

 

[Rosy]

How can you possibly say that post was spot on when you weren't even there?

There are several conflicting reports from those who were there. You'll notice they all saw things differently. :

I wasn't there but Boss posted accurate information (as usual ). I didn't have to be there to know what Boss has posted is correct.

A self-fulfilling fantasy perhaps.....

Anyway, you would think that a man who was positioning himself to become president of an AFL football club would have the necessary strength and conviction to make himself heard!

I'm sure Charles could have made himself heard if he wanted to make a fuss which thankfully he didn't. He is a very respectable and decent Richmond person and his intentions were honourable, not to cause a ruckus.

 

[Rosy]

I started a whole thread on this same topic but I'm afraid the anti CC brigade are too powerful. They will not accept the result of the election as DECISIVE. To them a 42% vote in their favour is a line ball decision. They ignore the 58% vote against them and the fact that their President elect got less votes than the last member of the elected board.

More codswollop Remember Tommmy.

I don’t think anyone is ignoring the result of the election.

They were simply ignoring your request for pledges of blind faith. Why would anyone agree to that when you yourself bag other posters, this website and the people on the alternative ticket. Slight double standards.

It would be a sad state of affairs if everyone just ignored things they were concerned about and pretended everything was hunky dory. Does being elected come complete with immunity from discussion?

You are the one beating up anti CC talk.

 

[teflon]

Rosy again attacking anyone who doesn't share her leftest political beliefs. Hasn't been a good year-first Latham then Chuck!

 

[gustiger12]

Rosy again attacking anyone who doesn't share her leftest political beliefs. Hasn't been a good year-first Latham then Chuck!

Teflon you accuse Rosy of an attack then launch one of your own. ???

 

[tigertough12]

You people still going on with this off field stuff?

Its time to move on and get over it!

Its time to UNITE and get back to TALKING FOOTY.

Merry Xmas!
Go TIGERS 2005!!!!!

 

[Larrikin]

This whole incident is just like a Seinfeld episode.

 

[gustiger12]

This whole incident is just like a Seinfeld episode.

I'm sure he could make an episode on it ;D ;D

Casey played by Krammer and Macek by George ;D

 

[gustiger12]

Regardless of what the reality of the situation was, I would have thought that it would have been a good political move on Caseys part to go out of his way to give Macek some question time. Even if Macek was a little late in his approach.

 

[Remember Tommy]

Regardless of what the reality of the situation was, I would have thought that it would have been a good political move on Caseys part to go out of his way to give Macek some question time.  Even if Macek was a little late in his approach.

Macek seems to have made a habit of , being " a little late in his approach". Your quote Gus. Ask yourself the simple question. What was he going to ask CC that he couldn't have asked via the media during the election . I would of thought his question was a little late.

 

[Remember Tommy]

I started a whole thread on this same topic but I'm afraid the anti CC brigade are too powerful. They will not accept the result of the election as DECISIVE. To them a 42% vote in their favour is a line ball decision. They ignore the 58% vote against them and the fact that their President elect got less votes than the last member of the elected board.

More codswollop Remember Tommmy.   
It would be a sad state of affairs if everyone just ignored things they were concerned about and pretended everything was hunky dory.  Does being elected come complete with immunity from discussion?

You are the one beating up anti CC talk.

Rosy,
You are unreal. All I have asked is that you and the supporters of the alt people respect the overwhelming vote for the newly elected board and give them some support in the present environment. I would have done that had the alts won. I dont expect you to fall all over them, but they are the newly elected board of our footy club, and it wouldn't hurt if you gave them some support on the move forward. If you want to remove some of them at the next election, do it then.

 

[MCG]

Talking to my son yesterday who was at the meeting and who, like me, voted for the alternate ticket he said it definitely was not a snub. He didn't even know that it was Macek who was trying to ask the question, but thought that Case tried to stop proceedings so he could be heard but it was just too late and he gave a shrug of apology. Doesn't make me like Casey any more but I think this has been blown out of all proportions.

 

[Rosy]

You are unreal. All I have asked is that you and the supporters of the alt people respect the overwhelming vote for the newly elected board and give them some support in the present environment. I would have done that had the alts won. I dont expect you to fall all over them, but they are the newly elected board of our footy club, and it wouldn't hurt if you gave them some support on the move forward. If you want to remove some of them at the next election, do it then.

Where have I not supported them?  

Where have I not realised or accepted they were elected?

Where have I been anti-CC?

Why tell me I can remove the directors at the next election?  It's not something I've given any thought to but it's interesting you bring it up.

You've criticised and singled me out since you joined PRE and you expect me to agree to some airy fairy pledge just because you request it?

How about you argee to some things then.

Judge people's opinions on their merits no matter who they support.

Don't assume things posted are incorrect simply because you haven't heard or read about them in the paper yourself.

Don't put words into other posters mouths. :

Don't make accusations against their opinions based on your own prejudices rather that what they actually say.

Try to support PRE and be constructive rather than just be critical.  Unlike the Hotel California, if you don't like it,  you can check out anytime you like....and actually leave.

Quit the  personal interrogation aimed towards one or two PREnders.  They clearly show you have a personal vendetta.

If you are so worried about what the outside world think of us when they read PRE I suggest you address your own posting habits first.

Enough.   :-X

Yep MCG as I said several people who were there posted varying opinions. They can't all be correct though.  I was more commenting on Charles' intentions when hoping for a chance to speak. 

 

[MCG]

Sorry Rosy, but I haven't read all posts on this thread. I would have loved for Macek to have had his say. Hopefully it would have settled the dust a bit.

 

[gustiger12]

Regardless of what the reality of the situation was, I would have thought that it would have been a good political move on Caseys part to go out of his way to give Macek some question time.  Even if Macek was a little late in his approach.

Macek seems to have made a habit of , being " a little late in his approach". Your quote Gus. Ask yourself the simple question. What was he going to ask CC that he couldn't have asked via the media during the election . I would of thought his question was a little late.

It is irrelevant to the issue what he was going to ask. I wasn't there and can only go by what I read here, but given Caseys latest all embracing pledge would have thought he could have made an exception for Macek. I maybe way off he mark on the whole situation, but wouldn't have thought it could be that hard.

 

[Remember Tommy]

Where have I been anti CC.

You've criticised and singled me out since you joined PRE and you expect me to agree to some airy fairy pledge just because you request it.

Rosy,

Have I hit a nerve. I'm terribly sorry if I disagree with the majority of what you say on the "off field site". Do you want me to fall in line with your views like an unthinking left wing rebel. I thought this was a discussion forum and its OK to disagree. If you feel I'm selecting you out, question yourself, whether it's got anything to do with your biased ownership of this site on the "election" issue and the fact that you post 10 to 1 more posts than the average contributor. You put yourself up for criticism and you should expect it, and probably enjoy it.  You have been the figurehead of the alts campaign throughout the last few months on this forum and since the election result you ask me this question. " Where have I been anti CC". Show me one post where you have called for support of the newly elected president and I will lay off. I maintain my democratic right to disagree with you. I have never criticised you personally, but you seem to have turned our relationship into a personal one for all to hear. I do not understand this attitude.

 

[the claw]

it seems to me there are some on this site who have inferiority complexes. some causes maybe little man syndrome little *smile* syndrome insecurity problems or they just cant abide a woman being in charge. what i dont understand is why people keep posting here if they dont like the site or the people running it. i say be big enough and admit when you are wrong or *smile* of and go start your own site.

 

[Ghost Who Walks]

Absolutely amazing! Rosy, i have previously refrained from being openly critical of your "opinions". Sorry can't do that any longer!

You have been calling for cc to change his ways for a considerable amount of time. We now see that right action seems to be following the right words he delivered as part of his acceptance speech....

You can be as critical as you like RU. The fact is we've been virtually ignored in previous years. You may disagree but I discussed that with Greg Miller recently and he agreed change was needed bigtime.

Actions speak louder than words, and election promises mean stuff all. Ask the Tasmanians who voted for John Howard.

Yes...exactly! The actions of CC at the moment are distinctly those of a man who has acknowledged his past failings and one who has expressed a desire to correct them.

Anyway....time will reveal all!

P.S. Apologies....should've lambasted Ghost as well!

RU

I was saying I will wait and see before proclaiming how wonderful things are and what an amazing metamorphosis that has occurred with CC.

All I am going by is Casey's track record, your saying I am focusing on the negatives, then show me the positives and by that I do not mean the following:

a) 1 Session of flesh pressing [after 5 years]
b) Terry Wallace or Greg Miller
c) Financial Plan approved by the AFL

because as far as I am concerned these are not positives, these are business decisions [b and c].

I want positive demonstrations of where the average supporter is treated with respect and courtesy, after all it is "YOUR" [Supporter] money that is the life blood of the team.

a) Memberships
b) Gate receipts
c) Miscellaneous Purchases (Apparel etc.)

As for speeches by politicians and promises, I will quote this;
John Howard "We will NEVER have a GST"
John Howard "It was non CORE promise"

I do not put any faith in politician's promises, all I was saying that show me the actions before proclaiming we are in a brave new world.

RU, you can be as critical of MY opinions as you like, but I will still post them.

I am STILL A RICHMOND SUPPORTER and I am entitled to express my opinions!!!!!

No amount of bombast by you saying "58% of supporters have voted for CC", so we should all shut up!

What about the disaffected 42% that want to see real change not just "MINDLESS rhetoric"