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Changes against the Bulldogs

This thread is a good example of how we shouldnt get ahead of ourselves.

Many posters couldnt see how we could be beaten by a good experienced side. We are undoubtedly on the right path but simply arent good enough to beat these sides consistently.

A lot of work yet to do in our rebirth. Including turning over a decent portion of players that fronted up today.

We are on the right path on a long long trail.
 
Leysy Days said:
This thread is a good example of how we shouldnt get ahead of ourselves.

Many posters couldnt see how we could be beaten by a good experienced side. We are undoubtedly on the right path but simply arent good enough to beat these sides consistently.

A lot of work yet to do in our rebirth. Including turning over a decent portion of players that fronted up today.

We are on the right path on a long long trail.

Reckon that is cop out Leysy. I cop getting beaten by a side that was top 4 in 2010 but considering that Hall, Higgins, Lake (3 of the Bulldogs best 7) were sitting in the stands todays effort is a massive disappointment. Not the result but the style and attitude that we fronted up with. The Bulldogs were always come up breathing fire and we did not fire a shot. Very winnable game but we played like a side that had got ahead of themselves.

Not a shattering result but very disappointing day.
 
Leysy Days said:
This thread is a good example of how we shouldnt get ahead of ourselves.

Many posters couldnt see how we could be beaten by a good experienced side. We are undoubtedly on the right path but simply arent good enough to beat these sides consistently.

A lot of work yet to do in our rebirth. Including turning over a decent portion of players that fronted up today.

We are on the right path on a long long trail.

Think your Chimpa got a lesson from Boyd today.
 
Jacksons your man not chimp jb.

Jacko was taught one of the biggest lessons of his life by boyd.

Clear bog against no resistance by our 'best' tagger.
 
SCOOP said:
Reckon that is cop out Leysy. I cop getting beaten by a side that was top 4 in 2010 but considering that Hall, Higgins, Lake (3 of the Bulldogs best 7) were sitting in the stands todays effort is a massive disappointment. Not the result but the style and attitude that we fronted up with. The Bulldogs were always come up breathing fire and we did not fire a shot. Very winnable game but we played like a side that had got ahead of themselves.

Not a shattering result but very disappointing day.

You might need to take the rose coloureds off JB
 
I don't think it's fair to single Jackson out. All our mids got a lesson today, although I'd love to see a breakdown of who actually started in the square during the 2 Dog barrages.
 
Sorry jb and scoop. leysys on the train on the way home after a skin full.

Facts are the dogs are still a far better team than us and jAckson lined up on who was easily the best player on the ground. And he is our no 1 tagger...

Unfortunately unequivaquel facts.
 
Got smashed by Minson and Hudson today. Only Hille, Ryder and Bellchambers (would be our number 1 ruck, should poach) up next week. Awesome.
 
Tigers2011 said:
Agreed. Game that should have been won. Highlighted chronic weaknesses in first ruck and defense.
not a game that should of been won, prob a game that could of been one...
inconsistency is still very much where we are at
 
I agree that there needs to be 3-4 changes but wasn't encouraged by Hardwick's post match showing faith in current ruck and backline. Sounded too much like Wallace for mine.

Out: Graham; McGuane, Nason, Edwards (inj)
In: Browne, Post, Tuck/Webberley and White
 
Leysy Days said:
You might need to take the rose coloureds off JB

No way champ.

But really, today’s effort can not be called anything but disappointing. Not sure why you would think otherwise. This game was as winnable if not more then the Freo game but we rolled up and didn't fire a shot for the first 35 minutes. We made a run at it but really we were never a real chance. I think we have a long way to go, a very long way but you cannot condone efforts like todays.
 
First time I've seen Leysy and SCOOP disagree with each other and not give each other a pat on the back.
 
SCOOP said:
No way champ.

But really, today’s effort can not be called anything but disappointing. Not sure why you would think otherwise. This game was as winnable if not more then the Freo game

Don't see how once the Dogs decided to bring their A game. We will not win against the top sides if they play at their best. We could have won but that depended on the Dogs bringing their form of last week in and us playing well.
 
Barnzy said:
Got smashed by Minson and Hudson today. Only Hille, Ryder and Bellchambers (would be our number 1 ruck, should poach) up next week. Awesome.

Didn't we. And your right and next week is even more worrying because all of these three run hard into the 50. Think one of the three rucks will get squeezed out and move on over the next two years. They should trade Hille while he has some value to someone. But next week could get ugly for Gus.
The area that Gus really gut smashed by was Hudsons second efforts within the centre square, so many times Hudson get involved after the hitouts to help the Bulldogs mids get away from the contest and spread. The mids got a lesson but a large part of it was Hudsons great work.

But the pattern is clear. Like Freo did last week and the Dogs today, teams are playing through their ruckman and exposing Gus. It is a weakness we cannot hide any more. It is costing us.
 
SCOOP said:
But the pattern is clear. Like Freo did last week and the Dogs today, teams are playing through their ruckman and exposing Gus. It is a weakness we cannot hide any more. It is costing us.

I don't think anyone would disagree.
 
IanG said:
Don't see how once the Dogs decided to bring their A game. We will not win against the top sides if they play at their best. We could have won but that depended on the Dogs bringing their form of last week in and us playing well.

Agree with that Ian, if and in this case it's a huge IF the Dogs already had that form but for a large portion of this was our doing. We ran them into form by being unaccountable in the centre sqaure and turning the ball over.

Barnzy said:
First time I've seen Leysy and SCOOP disagree with each other and not give each other a pat on the back.

Pipe down Jimmy. Sit back and enjoy the ride. ;D

Leysy and Scoop are two of the best on PRE, even if we do say so ourselves from time to time. ;D
 
SCOOP said:
Didn't we. And your right and next week is even more worrying because all of these three run hard into the 50. Think one of the three rucks will get squeezed out and move on over the next two years. They should trade Hille while he has some value to someone. But next week could get ugly for Gus.
The area that Gus really gut smashed by was Hudsons second efforts within the centre square, so many times Hudson get involved after the hitouts to help the Bulldogs mids get away from the contest and spread. The mids got a lesson but a large part of it was Hudsons great work.

But the pattern is clear. Like Freo did last week and the Dogs today, teams are playing through their ruckman and exposing Gus. It is a weakness we cannot hide any more. It is costing us.

That's why need 2 talls next week, but our mids have to learn how to read opposition ruckmen also. Other teams have killed us in the past with this tactic.