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Blind Charlie

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Surely Balta is playing second Ruck. Seems dead obvs to me.
I'd hate to move a player out of a position he's dominating in but it may well be what they do.
If it was my call I'd throw Kmac in for some relief in the ruck, won't win the tap out but he's hard as a cats head and you'd at least have a bigger body around the contest if its halved.
 

tigerman

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Time to mix things up a bit, I wouldn't mind seeing Broad replace Balta down back, with Noah playing forward as a 3rd tall, and giving Nank a chop out.
 

Number8

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Surely Balta is playing second Ruck. Seems dead obvs to me.
Yep. Saints score heavily from stoppage. Cannot willingly concede the ruck in this instance.

The Balta/Astbury set up hasn't worked. Astbury to King, Broad to Membrey, Nankervis and Balta to share ruck duties.
 
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Mantikorr

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No chance. When was the last time Hardwick overhauled arguably the strongest part of the team?
He overhauled the strongest part of the team in round 23 v Adelaide when he brought Dave back and played 2 tall key defenders.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure we've played with 2 tall key defenders only 3 times in the last 2 years:

Round 1 2019 - Rance and Astbury
Round 23 2020 - Astbury and Balta
QF 2020 - Astbury and Balta

Both 2020 games Balta has looked a bit lost being in there with Astbury. Taking one out will put us back to what worked for two years
 
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tigerlove

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I'd hate to move a player out of a position he's dominating in but it may well be what they do.
If it was my call I'd throw Kmac in for some relief in the ruck, won't win the tap out but he's hard as a cats head and you'd at least have a bigger body around the contest if its halved.

Balta hasn't been as conspicuous since Astbury's return so I think we can get away with moving him into a different role, we have the backup for his position. At the very least we have more flexibility. Kmac is a no for me, he has done very well in that wing role and to me moving him out of that role would be a net negative for us.
 
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tigerlove

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He overhauled the strongest part of the team in round 23 v Adelaide when he brought Dave back and played 2 tall key defenders.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure we've played with 2 tall key defenders only 3 times in the last 2 years:

Round 1 2019 - Rance and Astbury
Round 23 2020 - Astbury and Balta
QF 2020 - Astbury and Balta

Both 2020 games Balta has looked a bit lost being in there with Astbury. Taking one out will put us back to what worked for two years

Disagree. Grimes ably took on the role that was left behind by Rance. Grimes only 1cm shorter than Balta and Rance. Then Broad is only another cm shorter. Grimes, Astbury, Balta, Broad give us plenty of match up options on Saints tall forwards.
 
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Mantikorr

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Disagree. Grimes ably took on the role that was left behind by Rance. Grimes only 1cm shorter than Balta and Rance. Then Broad is only another cm shorter. Grimes, Astbury, Balta, Broad give us plenty of match up options on Saints tall forwards.
Yes but Grimes and Broad played the last two years as well. We've still added another tall. One of them needs to come out with Vlastuin, Baker, Houli and Short in defence as well.
Balta just feels like the most obvious one to play elsewhere as he's done it effectively before
 
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Dev Tiger

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I reckon we should play Broady back and use Noah in the back up ruck role. He and Nank can both spend a bit of time forward as well. In a perfect world you would leave Noah back but without big Soldo I would run with him in that role.
 
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Blind Charlie

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Balta hasn't been as conspicuous since Astbury's return so I think we can get away with moving him into a different role, we have the backup for his position. At the very least we have more flexibility. Kmac is a no for me, he has done very well in that wing role and to me moving him out of that role would be a net negative for us.
Agree with you on Kmac on the wing but that's my point, Kmac chopping out at a centre bounce just centralises him from his wing position.He can easily move from the stoppage to his main role. Taking Balta out of his position for the sake of a tap out is backward mentality IMO. His worth as a backman is far greater than as a chop out ruck. Winning a tap out doesn't mean you'll win the stoppage is probably what I'm trying to say.
As long as we can cover him down back I'd have no problem with him as a chop out but I still would prefer Balta in that backline more often than not.
 
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Tigaman

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Got one right Broad in (besides Lynch). Did think Damian got his back line match ups screwed up last week at game on .
 

witch

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Broad in to free up Balta is a good change imho. Balta hasn't had enough time to adapt to the structure playing alongside Astbury, I don't see it being an issue next season as they will be able to develop continuity throughout the year. The change will allow Balta to provide a marking option down the line and guard the space one kick out from our offensive arc while Nank rests forward or is off the ground. I don't see Balta taking many centre bounces or playing forward of the ball but he will compete nobly around the ground when required.
 
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Smoking Aces

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He overhauled the strongest part of the team in round 23 v Adelaide when he brought Dave back and played 2 tall key defenders.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure we've played with 2 tall key defenders only 3 times in the last 2 years:

Round 1 2019 - Rance and Astbury
Round 23 2020 - Astbury and Balta
QF 2020 - Astbury and Balta

Both 2020 games Balta has looked a bit lost being in there with Astbury. Taking one out will put us back to what worked for two years
We won a premiership with 2 tall defenders.
In fact I would argue that we have always played with 2 tall defenders in Astbury and Grimes. We just now have the luxury to have Grimes play on talls or smalls.
 
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