Changes Rd22 West Coast

antman

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I know Cotchin deserves the highest level of respect but I'm wondering if he is in our best side at the moment given the amount of footy he has missed?
Pretty sure Neil Balme said exactly what I said about Cotchin tonight.
Said playing him was a risk and we would be rolling the dice.
Balme was saying he's a risk because of re-injury, you said he's not in our best side because he's missed a lot of footy. Those things are not the same Richo.
 

antman

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No, I'm saying the missing a lot of footy is a significant factor in the risk of re-injury.
No TBR, you said:

I know Cotchin deserves the highest level of respect but I'm wondering if he is in our best side at the moment given the amount of footy he has missed?
What Balme said and what you said was completely different, which is fine. But don't revise history.
 

The Big Richo

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No TBR, you said:
What Balme said and what you said was completely different, which is fine. But don't revise history.
You implied Cotchin is no longer a top 22 player. I think most, if not all footy followers, would disagree.
You blokes have misunderstood what I'm saying.

If I was implying Cotchin was no longer a top 22 player (which is ridiculous) I would have said "I know Cotchin deserves the highest level of respect but I'm wondering if he is in our best side at the moment."

I didn't say that though, I said given the amount of footy he has missed. I'm talking about the risk of playing an under prepared player with a risk of injury that is significantly higher than normal.

Balme said playing him was a roll of the dice. I'm saying I don't like the odds.
 

Smoking Aces

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If Cotchin is to have any impact during the finals he needs to play the next two weeks. Resting him for 1 more, then playing 1 game before another week off will probably be more detrimental due to lack of conditioning.
 
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tigersnake

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If Cotchin is to have any impact during the finals he needs to play the next two weeks. Resting him for 1 more, then playing 1 game before another week off will probably be more detrimental due to lack of conditioning.


come off it. If it came to it I wouldn't hesitate to bring him straight back in regardless off when it was. Its Cotch!
 
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antman

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You blokes have misunderstood what I'm saying.

If I was implying Cotchin was no longer a top 22 player (which is ridiculous) I would have said "I know Cotchin deserves the highest level of respect but I'm wondering if he is in our best side at the moment."

I didn't say that though, I said given the amount of footy he has missed. I'm talking about the risk of playing an under prepared player with a risk of injury that is significantly higher than normal.
Seems an incredibly convoluted way of saying "he's at risk of re-injury" but O-Kay.
 

Don’t Argue

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You blokes have misunderstood what I'm saying.

If I was implying Cotchin was no longer a top 22 player (which is ridiculous) I would have said "I know Cotchin deserves the highest level of respect but I'm wondering if he is in our best side at the moment."

I didn't say that though, I said given the amount of footy he has missed. I'm talking about the risk of playing an under prepared player with a risk of injury that is significantly higher than normal.

Balme said playing him was a roll of the dice. I'm saying I don't like the odds.
Are you saying it’s season over for him because we can’t trust his hammy and he lacks conditioning?
I’m suggesting that, as long as his hammy feels strong, we have to take the risk. He’s a champion player, our Captain and spiritual leader and if it goes, It’s bad luck not bad management because one thing is certain ; Our physical performance department will not send him back if it’s not right.
You sound like you’re prepared to hang him in the closet until next year but I may be misunderstanding you
 
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Tony Braxton-Hicks

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In Burge we trust.

He had awareness early in the Cwood game, then missed two games, so he probably is fine.

But it wouldn't worry me if he was just the mascot this week or even next. September is when he's really needed.
 
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Ridley

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Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.They won the flag last year and they have beaten us at the G
When did they last beat us at the G? The last time we played them there was early 2017 and we won fairly comfortably as I recall.
 

Birdman19

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I still think we miss a tough in-under player when Cotch does not play. When Calton made their "come back" against us, he was exactly the type of player we needed to steady things down. The only other crash and bash type I can think of atm is Towner. Do we bring him in and put him on the ball (not forward) , to help the mid rotations?
 

eZyT

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Are you saying it’s season over for him because we can’t trust his hammy and he lacks conditioning?
I’m suggesting that, as long as his hammy feels strong, we have to take the risk. He’s a champion player, our Captain and spiritual leader and if it goes, It’s bad luck not bad management because one thing is certain ; Our physical performance department will not send him back if it’s not right.
You sound like you’re prepared to hang him in the closet until next year but I may be misunderstanding you
question for the medicos cause ive never done a hammy....

if it was a GF and cotchy tweaked a hammy in the 1st qtr,

could he sit in a FP?

I.e. is a minor hammy something you can play for if there is no next week?
 

tigerlove

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If Cotchin is to have any impact during the finals he needs to play the next two weeks. Resting him for 1 more, then playing 1 game before another week off will probably be more detrimental due to lack of conditioning.
Is he eligible for VFL final played during the AFL rest week before finals?
 

Smoking Aces

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come off it. If it came to it I wouldn't hesitate to bring him straight back in regardless off when it was. Its Cotch!
Of course you would play him even if he missed the next 2 and come back for the finals. But you completely missed my point. I would rather get a couple of games into him now than giving him another week off. The more preparation he has the better for him. He lacks conditioning.
 
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