Changes v Bullies

[Liverpool]

That's the interesting part of it I guess. Can great players rise above playing in a team of no hopers or will the turkeys inevitably drag them down? Kerr last year is a good example. Regarded as a champion player but all of a sudden when he was surrounded by draftees instead of champions and the opposition only had to focus on him to shut down their midfield he didn't look so crash hot.

It depends on the player I guess.
Thats why I brought up the names of West, Harvey, and Buckley earlier.....these are players that have played in some deplorable teams/eras of their respective clubs but will still go down as 'elite' players of their time.
They were able to rise above the rest of the team and still beat their opposing player more often than not even though the team was languishing at the bottom of the ladder.

What is on Lids side is his age and his natural ability.
However another problem with Lids though is that if he feels his growth as a player is also plateauing at Richmond (like I think it is), will he be tempted to go elsewhere in the near future (a la Ottens)?

That's not true. Bolta claims the "stolen generation" of Cloke and Raines led to the demise of the RFC.

I reckon the Richmond Football Club should say 'sorry' and pay me compo for putting up with this *smile* for 20+ years... :hihi

 

[Scoop]

That's the interesting part of it I guess. Can great players rise above playing in a team of no hopers or will the turkeys inevitably drag them down? Kerr last year is a good example. Regarded as a champion player but all of a sudden when he was surrounded by draftees instead of champions and the opposition only had to focus on him to shut down their midfield he didn't look so crash hot.

Not sure Kerr is a fair call Disco. Was not fit for most of 2008 and only played 11 games.

He is flying this year and in the best four or five form footballers thus far. That quarter againist Port was something to behold. I think he is number two behind Gary Jr at the minute.