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Smoking Aces

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Seems like necessity to me. ie, injuries. Those rueing Ross omittion, based on his alleged position rather than form or ability, are clutching at straws IMO. Been terrible all year.
Terrible? Try playing consistent footy the way he has been used this year.
This is Jack Graham all over again. Playing him on a wing but not in his natural position and then wondering why he isn’t performing.
 
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Coburgtiger

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It’s insane. Logic ridiculous.
As a coach you work a system to play your best 22 players.
What I'm confused about is why we're trying to maintain our current forward structure. It's not the structure that won premierships, and it's not working against the decent sides this year. So maybe change the structure?
 
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tigerman

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Very thin on midfielders, would've like Aarts in the guts, with MoJo replacing him up front.
 

Ridley

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Seems like necessity to me. ie, injuries. Those rueing Ross omittion, based on his alleged position rather than form or ability, are clutching at straws IMO. Been terrible all year.
Ross has been treated very poorly IMO this year Snake. He has been medical sub (can’t stand this rule) on numerous occasions and then in and out of the side. He may not be a world beater but how do you find out if he doesn’t get a crack at it. Now is the time to find out with all of our midfielders injured. His form hasn’t been great but it’s no worse than others in the team such as Castagna and Rioli.

His first 6 or so games in 2019 before he was injured were very very good. I’d like to see him get a chance to recapture that. If he doesn’t then at least we know and he can be moved on.
 
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momentai

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Pleasantly surprised with our success against the Dogs. And Dimma can pull it off again, but his refusal to bring in either CJ or alternatively Chol says quite a lot.
 
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Ridley

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Dimma lives or dies at the selection table this week. An already decimated midfield loses two more guns. His decision is to not only not replace them with even one midfielder he then goes and drops a third midfielder. Brings in a debutant flanker and promotes a light bodied winger who has yet to show much in his few outings. Also refuses to select a 3rd tall forward back up ruck option to stretch the Giants defence.

Understand it’s difficult with all the injuries but this is the first time in a long time I have been so dubious on selection. But I’m not a 3 time premiership coach. If we win he will be a genius.
 
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Mr Brightside

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Interesting reading this thread , 3 flags in 4 years and now we are at 4/4 and MC don’t know what there doing :rotfl1:mhihi . I wonder how many were calling for players heads over the past 4 years who now wear Premiership medallions ... ffs people a little prospective
 
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CarnTheTiges

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Yet we can't 'fit' CCJ in?
This. I understood it in 2017. We simply didn’t have another tall there. Soldo and Chol were very underdeveloped and Maric was done. I remember Soldo filling in one week when Nank was suspended. We won the game, but I came away thinking thank God Nankervis returns next week. This year we do have options. Chol, while inconsistent, has done the job, and from what little we’ve seen of CCJ he looks to be a viable 2nd ruck. It makes no sense and we’re shortening Nank’s career by running him into the ground and reducing the team’s effectiveness forward and around the ground by not utilising another tall marking option. We’re robbing the team of Marlion’s output by playing him in the ruck and unsettling our back line by throwing Balta and Astbury, even Broad, in there.
 
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tigersnake

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Ross has been treated very poorly IMO this year Snake. He has been medical sub (can’t stand this rule) on numerous occasions and then in and out of the side. He may not be a world beater but how do you find out if he doesn’t get a crack at it. Now is the time to find out with all of our midfielders injured. His form hasn’t been great but it’s no worse than others in the team such as Castagna and Rioli.

His first 6 or so games in 2019 before he was injured were very very good. I’d like to see him get a chance to recapture that. If he doesn’t then at least we know and he can be moved on.
I disagree. Does disposal and decision making change when he his given the exact role he apparently should get? Should he get an extra cushion for his arse when sitting on the bench? I don't buy it. I actually think the opposite, has been given a lot of credit based on that early good form. The position thing is a furphy. People seem to think his only skill is getting in a pack and getting it out. I think people are overating him on that basis. And even if they aren't and he is as good at that as people think or hope for, thats a one trick pony.

As I said on another thread, if your modus operandi is being a solid and reliable citizen, being solid and reliable is non-negotiable.

I'm always skeptical of the 'if he was played in his correct posi he'd be a gun' thesis. Sometimes there is some basis to it sure, but generally players are good or they ain't.

There is also the issue of people showing little faith in the MC of a club that has risen from the ashes and won 4 flags. Edit, 3, should have been 4!

People will think I hate him but I don't and thats not the issue, he hasn't taken his chances. Hasn't shown enough, and been dropped.
 
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tigersnake

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Interesting reading this thread , 3 flags in 4 years and now we are at 4/4 and MC don’t know what there doing :rotfl1:mhihi . I wonder how many were calling for players heads over the past 4 years who now wear Premiership medallions ... ffs people a little prospective
Beat me to it!
 
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Ridley

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Interesting reading this thread , 3 flags in 4 years and now we are at 4/4 and MC don’t know what there doing :rotfl1:mhihi . I wonder how many were calling for players heads over the past 4 years who now wear Premiership medallions ... ffs people a little prospective
That’s fair enough. No doubt their hands are tied somewhat with all the injuries but still think there are some interesting selections this week. As I said he will be a genius if we can somehow pull off a win with that midfield line up.
 

mrposhman

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The Giants are a first hands to the ball side. Even with our full compliment of mids only Chimp will regularly beat them to the pill. So we play the dirty 22B. Heat and counter. Pressure the ball, turn it over and off to the races. Richmond Small Ball 101.

That's the plan. We weren't going to beat them on the inside, Ross or no.

I think you are right and the Giants arent known for a team that deals with pressure well.

Seems like its surrender 1st possession then harass till we force the turnover and then run the ball quickly. This should mean that we seperate Jack and Tom like we did against the Dogs. We should look to get Tom up the ground and play Jack deep, interesting what they then do with Taylor, does he go with Tom or do they send a smaller player. I think Buntine deep on Jack may work well for us as well, Jack with smarts and a 4cm height difference should bode well.

When we played the Saints we moved the ball at speed (though we did win the ball out of the centre very well) and I expect that to happen again tonight. Seems like run and gun is the approach.
 
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Mr Brightside

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That’s fair enough. No doubt their hands are tied somewhat with all the injuries but still think there are some interesting selections this week. As I said he will be a genius if we can somehow pull off a win with that midfield line up.
Always has been interesting selections Ridler , not everyone is going to agree , however the MC’s record is outstanding
 
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Smoking Aces

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Always has been interesting selections Ridler , not everyone is going to agree , however the MC’s record is outstanding
Doesn’t mean we can’t question it. They have credits in the bank but from a far it’s looks like a massive gamble tonight.
 

Mr Brightside

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Doesn’t mean we can’t question it. They have credits in the bank but from a far it’s looks like a massive gamble tonight.
Nothing wrong with questioning it at all it’s a forum , however to question this mob when they have proved us all wrong in the past is a bit premature imho.
If many of us on here got our way we wouldn’t have Peggy, Benny and Dimma after 2016 , think Dimma an Co probably deserve a little more faith
 
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eZyT

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Doesn’t mean we can’t question it. They have credits in the bank but from a far it’s looks like a massive gamble tonight.

I think it looks like we are going to concede clearances, intercept, and run them off their feet.

Richmond H&A 101

I'll celebrate 6:6 like a minor premiership, and we can almost lock that in with a win tonight I reckon.

BIG game
 
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Carter

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2nd to the ball and conceding clearances are two different things.

we have the toughest ruckman in the league degrading the ruck. on the ground we will have tackle machines in Baker, Pickett, Graham.

on the outside we will have a conspiracy of rangy runners lining up to whisk the leather away. backed by a premiership defense, sharpened by a premiership attack.

it's at Marvel. GWS would have to do a lot right to win.
 
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spook

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I think it looks like we are going to concede clearances, intercept, and run them off their feet.

Richmond H&A 101

I'll celebrate 6:6 like a minor premiership, and we can almost lock that in with a win tonight I reckon.

BIG game
Win tonight and you can ink in 7-5 at the bye. No way Adelaide or Arsendon beat us.
 
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