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Chasers Disgrace

Liverpool said:
I posted one of the said links and I will NOT be removing it.
(If the mods see fit to remove it, it is their prerogative however).

The Chaser skit is far worse than me posting a link to the same skit, because by now...people know what they are going to see before clicking on the link. They know they are about to watch something that has be deemed by the wider community to be not only offensive, but just a low act.

I for one did NOT know they were going to do a skit about terminally ill children before the show started....and so it was a 'shocked surprise' for the majority of viewers I would have thought.
Like myself, I'm tipping people were about to sit down and expect the usual jibes at politicians, sports-people, and celebrities.......not dying children.

Do you see the difference?
People watching the show would have not been aware of what they were about to watch.
The links posted on this thread, people are aware that they are about to watch a poor attempt at a comedy routine using a worthy cause and their intended recipients as the 'joke'.
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Well said.

I see the chaser team have been 'given a rest' for a couple of weeks til the storm dies down. From what I read online it sounds like they were trying to have it so very over-the-top that people would have known they weren't being serious. Clearly backfired on them.

The Chaser team aren't new with this though. There's a very old joke, that I remember from when I was knee high to a grasshopper. Two kids are talking about a boy, Charlie. The first one says "Charlie got a new computer, and Charlie got a new Remote-Control Car AND Charlie got a brand new bike" to which the other child replie "Lucky. I wish I had leukemia".
Not saying that joke is funny, but pointing out that this "humour" has been around for a long long time. Everyone on this thread is correct though, it doesn't need to be shown on our national broadcaster.

On the chk chk boom girl... heard her referred to by the press as "Australia's Biggest Bogan". In no way, from what I've seen is she a bogan. She is rather attractive, quite well-spoken, and seems vaguely intelligent. I hate it when the press use words like bogan as a tag-line, without really knowing what they mean.

Discuss
 
ClayBevan said:
On the chk chk boom girl... heard her referred to by the press as "Australia's Biggest Bogan". In no way, from what I've seen is she a bogan. She is rather attractive, quite well-spoken, and seems vaguely intelligent. I hate it when the press use words like bogan as a tag-line, without really knowing what they mean.

Discuss
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She's from the Northern Beaches of Sydney. No bogans up there. Plenty of skegs and airheads, but no bogans.

Anyway, all is forgiven because she is hot. It's the way of the world.
 
RemoteTiger said:
Sick kids stunt earns Chaser 2-week ban

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/05/2591072.htm

Now what happened to freedom of speech?

"I may not agree with what they say but I will defend to my death their right to say it!"

Come on all you Internet filter knockers - your argument was based on freedom of speech - why doesn't the same apply here?

Do I smell double standards?
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Its a shame they didn't put theses ratbags off indefinitely
 
mb64 said:
Its a shame they didn't put theses ratbags off indefinitely
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Why? Most of what they do I find quite funny. One skit, which some people find offensive, which they have apologised for shouldn't mean that everyone who enjoys the program should miss out.
 
Apparently there has been one positive benefit from this. The "Make a Wish" charity (or whatever it is called) has recieved a large number of donations from people who are appalled at the Chasers joke.
 
ClayBevan said:
Why? Most of what they do I find quite funny. One skit, which some people find offensive, which they have apologized for shouldn't mean that everyone who enjoys the program should miss out.
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they didn't really apologize, it was one of the Wayne Carey jobs where they were sorry if what they did caused offense to anyone.

just the week before they said they worry more about getting high complaints than high ratings. do you really believe they regret the stunt?
 
I'm not the biggest Letterman fan, but compare this apology he gave for cracking a joke about Sarah Palin's daughter with the one the Chaser boys gave. While both a similar in much of what they say, I'll give credit to Letterman for accepting responsibility, no excuses or explanations, just acceptance that he did wrong. At least he acknowledged whether it was intended or not, it was his fault offense was caused. IMO, the Chaser guys were sorry people were offended, but not for the skit itself.

Letterman
"I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception," Letterman said.

"And since it was a joke I told, I feel that I need to do the right thing here and apologise for having told that joke. It's not your fault that it was misunderstood, it's my fault.

"So I would like to apologise, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke.

"I'm sorry about it and I'll try to do better in the future."

Chaser
We want to make an apology for a sketch we created called “The Make a Realistic Wish Foundation”.

We’ve just heard from the ABC that they’re pulling the show for 2 weeks. We were keen to keep making the show, so we’re disappointed by the decision, and we don’t agree with it.

But that aside, we’d like to apologise. The piece was a very black sketch. Obviously too black. And we’re really sorry for the significant pain and anger we have caused.

Many people have asked how could we possibly think a sketch like that should go to air. We realize in hindsight that we shouldn’t have done it. We never imagined that the sketch would be taken literally. We don’t think sick kids are greedy and we don’t think the Make a Wish Foundation deserves anything other than praise. It was meant to be so over-the-top that no one would ever take it seriously.

But we now understand the sketch didn’t come across as intended, and we take full responsibility for that. Now we’ve seen the impact of the piece we wish we’d thought it through better. There was no value in it that justifies the impact it’s clearly had on people whose grief or trauma is so great already. We should have considered that. We got it wrong. We’re sorry.
 
What is wrong with the Chaser apology? "We got it wrong, we're sorry" sums it up fairly well I think. If you prefer Letterman's it's probably only because he has a better PR team writing his apologies for him!
 
ClayBevan said:
What is wrong with the Chaser apology? "We got it wrong, we're sorry" sums it up fairly well I think. If you prefer Letterman's it's probably only because he has a better PR team writing his apologies for him!
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the Chaser apology is a typical Wayne Carey one where you apologise if you upset someone, but you don't actually apologise for what you did in the first place. Its only given when you want people to back off, but you actually don't think you did anything wrong. Its gutless, and highly conditional
 
Tiger74 said:
the Chaser apology is a typical Wayne Carey one where you apologise if you upset someone, but you don't actually apologise for what you did in the first place. Its only given when you want people to back off, but you actually don't think you did anything wrong. Its gutless, and highly conditional
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"We got it wrong. We're sorry".

Doesn't sound like a gutless conditional apology to me - seems pretty clear.
 
antman said:
"We got it wrong. We're sorry".

Doesn't sound like a gutless conditional apology to me - seems pretty clear.
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look at the rest of it. giving excuses that their comedy is black, and they didn't expect people to take it literally. Every interview they gave essentially gave the same message, we did nothing wrong, but we are sad people are upset.

remember just one week prior these guys said they judge success but the number of complaints they receive, not by ratings. Also the ABC said that their comedy is designed to provoke peoples thinking on some issues, so causing offense is a by-product of this.

their apology had more spin than a Terry Wallace and Steve Bracks run ferris wheel
 
Tiger74 said:
look at the rest of it. giving excuses that their comedy is black, and they didn't expect people to take it literally. Every interview they gave essentially gave the same message, we did nothing wrong, but we are sad people are upset.

remember just one week prior these guys said they judge success but the number of complaints they receive, not by ratings. Also the ABC said that their comedy is designed to provoke peoples thinking on some issues, so causing offense is a by-product of this.

their apology had more spin than a Terry Wallace and Steve Bracks run ferris wheel
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No worries T74 - I didn't see the interviews so don't have the context that you have.
 
Tiger74 said:
look at the rest of it. giving excuses that their comedy is black, and they didn't expect people to take it literally. Every interview they gave essentially gave the same message, we did nothing wrong, but we are sad people are upset.

remember just one week prior these guys said they judge success but the number of complaints they receive, not by ratings. Also the ABC said that their comedy is designed to provoke peoples thinking on some issues, so causing offense is a by-product of this.

their apology had more spin than a Terry Wallace and Steve Bracks run ferris wheel
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Completely disagree. I think it's fine that they explain their thinking behind the sketch, before apologising for it. How would you have liked them to apologise?
 
ClayBevan said:
Completely disagree. I think it's fine that they explain their thinking behind the sketch, before apologising for it. How would you have liked them to apologise?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c642WZ3g1Y

:hihi
 
ClayBevan said:
Completely disagree. I think it's fine that they explain their thinking behind the sketch, before apologising for it. How would you have liked them to apologise?
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I would have liked for them to actually appreciate what they did was wrong full stop - no excuses and no explanations. They are sorry for the outcome (mainly because it got them banned IMO), not for what they did, which is what people were upset about.

If I robbed you, and apologize in court for the inconvenience I caused you, thats crap - I still don't get robbing you was wrong.
 
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