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[Panthera Tigris]

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Still relevant!

 

[craig]

Didn't mind that show back what 15 years ago now the old OCC

 

[MB78]

As Australia will do what's best for Australia. Let's just hope those negotiating are genuinely looking at the long term benefits for Australia and not trying to find a nice wedge or headline in The Australian about how tough they are.

'Absolutely unacceptable': China warns Australia against involvement with Taiwan

China's embassy has taken aim at Australia, the United States and Japan, accusing them of "finger pointing" amid growing tensions with Taiwan.

www.abc.net.au

Is that what Penny Wong is doing?

Or is it China being bullies yet again?

 

[Baloo]

'Absolutely unacceptable': China warns Australia against involvement with Taiwan

China's embassy has taken aim at Australia, the United States and Japan, accusing them of "finger pointing" amid growing tensions with Taiwan.

www.abc.net.au

Is that what Penny Wong is doing?

Or is it China being bullies yet again?

China's reaction to Pelosi's visit was over the top. Even China's allies let them know it was too much. They'll back down when they can find a face saving way to do it.

 

[Streak]

They'll back down when they can find a face saving way to do it.

This is the problem though. Old Xi sees himself as the next Chairman Mao, but doesn't hold a candle to him in terms of general appeal to the masses, so he takes a tough approach to keep on side with the hardliners who have enough power to keep things under control.

It just seems to be the modern blueprint for these kleptocracies.

 

[TigerMasochist]

China's reaction to Pelosi's visit was over the top. Even China's allies let them know it was too much. They'll back down when they can find a face saving way to do it.

China's allies??? Putin on the ritz, Lil Kimmie n maybe some maaaates who Grandpa Xi buys nice prezzies for. Would have thought China's cronies would be all for Grandpa Xi throwin his weight around a bit n putting the wind up sleepy Joe, Oh Trudy, Macaroni, Elbo n a few others.

 

[Baloo]

China's allies??? Putin on the ritz, Lil Kimmie n maybe some maaaates who Grandpa Xi buys nice prezzies for. Would have thought China's cronies would be all for Grandpa Xi throwin his weight around a bit n putting the wind up sleepy Joe, Oh Trudy, Macaroni, Elbo n a few others.

You underestimate the effect the Belt & Road initiative has on the 147 countries that are part of it.

 

[DavidSSS]

Not to mention the reliance just about every country has on China's manufacturing.

Imagine trying to replace everything produced in China.

DS

 

[AngryAnt]

Not to mention the reliance just about every country has on China's manufacturing.

Imagine trying to replace everything produced in China.

DS

Yeah. Also one of the reasons that China is reluctant to invade Taiwan - they make nearly all of the world's semiconductors, and nearly 100% of the smaller 2-7 nanometer ones... If Taiwan is invaded and production halts, forget about fridges/cars/phones/laptops/manufacturing technologies for a few years.

It's also really hard to scale up or replicate production of semiconductors.

 

[DavidSSS]

Ooh yeah, without Taiwan Semiconductor and whatever other companies they have, we ain't having little computers in everything. I reckon that has been a serious consideration for China. There is the lure of taking over that industry, but you would be taking a huge risk that you could damage it in the process, or even that the Taiwanese either nick off with the factory or take a Scorched Earth approach.

Plus, I would have trouble getting a flash new bike.

DS

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Taiwan Faces Urgent Fighter Pilot Shortage as Xi Tests Defenses

Increasing warplane incursions near Taiwan risk leading to a broader US-China conflict.

www.bloomberg.com

Came across this one on the Taiwan (ROC) airforce today.

The PLA Air Force’s continual incursions on Taiwan’s air space don’t only serve an intimidatory purpose. It is playing the long game. Chinese military doctrine is very much about winning by attrition.

Taiwan’s ROC Air Force is actually a reasonable force. It has better aircraft and far better trained pilots than the PLA Air Force. As well as giant underground hanger facilities, tunnelled into mountains surrounding their airfields. Extremely hard to destroy. The mainlanders know this. So they are trying early tactics of attrition. Using their quantitative advantage

If Taiwan’s ROC Air Force already has a shortage of pilots, by the PLA maintaining constant incursions, it means all ROC pilots are on active duty, in the sky at all times, over worked and have no ability to staff training establishments to train new pilots. The monetary cost, time and labour to maintain F-16s doing so many flying hours is a strain also.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Ooh yeah, without Taiwan Semiconductor and whatever other companies they have, we ain't having little computers in everything. I reckon that has been a serious consideration for China. There is the lure of taking over that industry, but you would be taking a huge risk that you could damage it in the process, or even that the Taiwanese either nick off with the factory or take a Scorched Earth approach.

Plus, I would have trouble getting a flash new bike.

DS

I believe the arrangement is scorched earth taking all the intellectual property, know how and staff to the US.

In fact, the US is already in the process of putting together strategic joint ventures between Silicone Valley and Taiwan with this contingency in mind.

 

[spook]

Beijing's Solomons coup advances as Albo grovels

Must Australia liberate the Solomons again? This time from China’s tinpot allies: Last week dignitaries, including US ambassador to Australia, Caroline Kennedy, gathered for a dawn ceremony on Bloody Ridge in Solomon Islands to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the start of the brutal battle...

www.macrobusiness.com.au

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Beijing's Solomons coup advances as Albo grovels

Must Australia liberate the Solomons again? This time from China’s tinpot allies: Last week dignitaries, including US ambassador to Australia, Caroline Kennedy, gathered for a dawn ceremony on Bloody Ridge in Solomon Islands to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the start of the brutal battle...

www.macrobusiness.com.au

Road to a vassal state with “Chinese characteristics.”

China is not necessarily imminently going to make an attempt on Taiwan (although it would be wise not to rule anything in or out). But it is getting its ducks in a row to keep options open.

A foothold in the Solomons would be a strategically valuable point to thwart attempts for adversaries (namely a US led alliance) using northern Australia and PNG as a staging areas.

 

[spook]

Road to a vassal state with “Chinese characteristics.”

China is not necessarily imminently going to make an attempt on Taiwan (although it would be wise not to rule anything in or out). But it is getting its ducks in a row to keep options open.

A foothold in the Solomons would be a strategically valuable point to thwart attempts for adversaries (namely a US led alliance) using northern Australia and PNG as a staging areas.

Yep. Thanks to the massive failures of diplomacy of the previous government. The Solomons should have been a rock-solid ally.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Yep. Thanks to the massive failures of diplomacy of the previous government. The Solomons should have been a rock-solid ally.

I’d be offering for Australia to pay for their election. Even offer AEC expertise for free to help coordinate it. In order for it to not be postponed.

I suspect something of that nature will be what Albo and Wong will offer as their diplomatic move on the chess board.

 

[spook]

U.S.-China fight to lead planet earth will be decided “within 15 years” - Pearls and Irritations

The balance of geopolitical power will be decided in 15 years or sooner - and it will not be reversible, says an eye-opening new study.

johnmenadue.com

China’s political system has also increasingly been seen even by Western analysts as better suited to supporting a world leading tech sector. A notable example was government funding of R&D in key areas which had been a consistent part of Chinese economic planning since the 1950s, and which in sharp contrast to the US grew steadily as a percentage of GDP keeping up with the country’s rapid economic growth. This ensured funding in strategic areas where the private sector may otherwise not have been willing to work.”


This same point was strongly made by writers in the MIT Technology Review: “Governments [as opposed to business people] are more likely to fund long-term, risky bets like clean energy, sustainable materials, or smart manufacturing—the kinds of technologies the world really needs right now . . . it’s become increasingly clear in the West that while the venture capital model is good at building things people want, it’s less good at producing things society needs in order to solve hard, long-term problems like pandemics and climate change.”

 

[spook]

But will east or west ultimately rule the world? It’s too early to say. In terms of terms of global influence, military reach, grip on the media, and control of international finance, the US is well ahead.


Yet several observers say that China has some surprising leads already. Abrams points to a December 2021 report from the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, which said that only a “national response analogous to the mobilisation that created the technologies that won World War II” had a chance of preventing total Chinese dominance of “the technologies of the future.”


That study concluded that in some areas China “has already become No. 1. In others, on current trajectories, it will overtake the US within the next decade.”

Ibid, your Honour.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

U.S.-China fight to lead planet earth will be decided “within 15 years” - Pearls and Irritations

The balance of geopolitical power will be decided in 15 years or sooner - and it will not be reversible, says an eye-opening new study.

johnmenadue.com

Although, it’s not an either/or. I’ll raise the author, Taiwan and South Korean historical political systems as blueprints for industry development.

This below book gives a great outline of the divergent paths different parts of Asia took to development of industry. Taiwan and South Korea were most intriguing for mine.

How Asia Works

Booktopia has How Asia Works, Success and Failure in the World's Most Dynamic Region by Joe Studwell. Buy a discounted Paperback of How Asia Works online from Australia's leading online bookstore.

www.booktopia.com.au

I’m a little wary of some western academics that sometimes waver into the realms of the CCP apologists. A lot of these subversive elements are present within our institutions. I suspect some of them are secretly a little envious of the totalitarian, authoritarian nature of China and the dictatorial power it allows over the populace. Not just for economic and and industry reform, but for social reform also.

 

[Baloo]

U.S.-China fight to lead planet earth will be decided “within 15 years” - Pearls and Irritations

The balance of geopolitical power will be decided in 15 years or sooner - and it will not be reversible, says an eye-opening new study.

johnmenadue.com

China was always playing the long game. Western societies tend to plan out only as far as the next election.