Common Tigers - this time - lets get our act together..........

[RemoteTiger]

Round 11 2009 and all talk around the Richmond Football Club is who will replace a failed coach - yet another failed coach in a long line of failed coaches over the last 27 years.

When is the PRE Forum going to be a buzz about the Tigers being a real contender and a chance to go all the way - like Geelong's and St Kilda's forums are now?

We just seem to lurch from one crisis to another - no clear plan - and when we do get someone with a plan it is a plan full of expectations and no substance.

I feel sad about the Tigers of today they are but a mere shadow of the Tigers I learned to love in my formative years - they were tough hard men off the field running the club and even tougher harder players on the field that commanded respect and got it. Complimented by classy players that could produce that bit of magic that won the important games (now called blockbusters).

I had great expectations 4 and 1/2 years ago - I truly expected Wallace and Miller to take the Tigers up to the top rungs of the ladder - where we as supporters could go to a game or watch it on TV with an air of victory in our nostrils - not a feeling of how bad will this loss be.

I voted for Wallace over Eade and the other names mentioned back then - so today I feel my judgement is not worth two-bob - hence I have no real opinion on who should lead the coaching panel either as a caretaker for the rest of this season or the full time coach from 2010. This time I am going to leave it to the process - just please get a football department that works together with a plan that has substance and a main goal of a premiership.

Every area of my life has had its ups and downs over the last 27 years - except my most favourite pastime - my greatest love outside my family - the Mighty Tigers - they have been a constant downer - always never meeting the expectations I have for them - never aspiring to the heights of those Tiger teams of the late 60's early 70's that I grew up with.

I know, I know at least I have sung the Tigers theme song in victory on that last day of September at the MCG - and there are many loyal supporters on this forum who have not - and I feel for them - for it is one of the truly greatest feelings of football the yell of "yellow and black" at a Grand Final victory.

I wish for the generation that is missing such highlights in their football lives to have that feeling and I would like it just one more time (ok three more times - all back-to-back) before they put me in a box and turn up the temperature.

Common Tigers - this time - lets get our act together..........

 

[mainlandy]

I too Remote thought Wallace and Miller would bring us success. All we can hope for is that we get the right people at the club for the next 5 years.

 

[tommystigers]

I am gutted also because I really thought this would be it, that we would make finals and begin a real tilt at a premiership. I have lost confidence in anyone at the RFC being able to build the club back to what it once was, successful on and off-field.

I have no idea what is needed to rebuild the club. What I do know is that it will take passionate and dedicated commitment, like most of us have here on PRE, in the individuals that are called upon to do it. Dedication to Richmond. Not dedicated to themselves or a past club. C'mon Tiger wake up!

 

[wayne]

I look at some other teams that are in the 8 or aroundabouts.

Apart from the Saints and Geelong, other teams on paper are NOT miles ahead of us.

It has been coaching and a bad gameplan that has cost us. In a year that most teams are ordinary, we had to be shocking.

 

[Djevv]

I'll put my hand up and say that I too believed in the Wallace-Miller duo producing success. How wrong I was, we have travelled all the way from 16th to 15th with a couple of 9ths and a spoon in between. This has been a very hard reality check for me personally.

What is most difficult is that as more and more of the truth about the Wallace appointment comes out; it appears that the most cynical and negative supporters have been right all along there was no plan or correct process at any stage in the last five years, it was all made up on the fly :'(.

I am now even more concerned because the more cynical and negative among us are now saying Campbell is getting the top job because he is mates with Free and March and his character is not up to the job. I say well who knows maybe he will make a good senior coach, but I have been wrong before.

For goodness sake RFC get it RIGHT this time!!

 

[meltiger]

I am now even more concerned because the more cynical and negative among us are now saying Campbell is getting the top job because he is mates with Free and March and his character is not up to the job. I say well who knows maybe he will make a good senior coach, but I have been wrong before.

I think the major concern (Outside of the anger that still exists for some of us with what transpired with Knighta) is that WC if handed the job ahead of more qualified candidates if they apply is the wrong course to take. It would be nepotism, nothing more.


Of course, it's only speculation and most of us talking out of you know where until such a time comes as they do appoint the new coach (Which hopefully happens in the next 4-6 weeks no matter who it is).

 

[structures]

The club needs to make the hardest decision's from now till the end of the season which player's go which assistant's go, fitness staff should be the first one's shown the door.

 

[jake1353]

richmond have now started on a tnew trail towards sucsess now that we have sacked wallnce
if we play our cards rigth gets some new recruits sack the hacks and richmond goes into form do you think it would be to much to ask for a premiship by 2011?

 

[Djevv]

I think the major concern (Outside of the anger that still exists for some of us with what transpired with Knighta) is that WC if handed the job ahead of more qualified candidates if they apply is the wrong course to take. It would be nepotism, nothing more.


Of course, it's only speculation and most of us talking out of you know where until such a time comes as they do appoint the new coach (Which hopefully happens in the next 4-6 weeks no matter who it is).

Yes I'm definitely more worried about if they appoint him as senior coach. But make no mistake appointing him as caretaker marks him as the golden-haired boy, despite protestations to the contrary. The cynic in me will become increasingly active if he IS appointed as senior coach - I doubt he would be on any other team's shortlist personally and I also doubt he is a superior candidate to someone like Hardwicke who has won premierships both as a player and (assistant) coach. In short I would feel much more confident that Richmond is following a plan and a process if Campbell was offered neither job.

 

[Azza]

Yes I'm definitely more worried about if they appoint him as senior coach. But make no mistake appointing him as caretaker marks him as the golden-haired boy, despite protestations to the contrary. The cynic in me will become increasingly active if he IS appointed as senior coach - I doubt he would be on any other team's shortlist personally and I also doubt he is a superior candidate to someone like Hardwicke who has won premierships both as a player and (assistant) coach. In short I would feel much more confident that Richmond is following a plan and a process if Campbell was offered neither job.

Yes. Mind you, if he gets the caretaker job but not the full-time gig, it would be a good sign we're on the right track process-wise.

 

[Djevv]

Yes. Mind you, if he gets the caretaker job but not the full-time gig, it would be a good sign we're on the right track process-wise.

OK but why not give the caretaker to someone like King or Rawlings who has no real hope of Coaching next year? Even if they do reasonably well they would be hard pressed to get the 2010 gig. If Campbell gets the caretakers role he is being given every chance to do a Geish - the cynic in me says.

On top of this where we have a situation where a coach wants to win to press his case to the selection board well, any darksider will tell you thats a recipe for coming ninth. Coming ninth this year would be an unmitigated disaster for the club.

 

[Azza]

OK but why not give the caretaker to someone like King or Rawlings who has no real hope of Coaching next year? Even if they do reasonably well they would be hard pressed to get the 2010 gig. If Campbell gets the caretakers role he is being given every chance to do a Geish - the cynic in me says.

On top of this where we have a situation where a coach wants to win to press his case to the selection board well, any darksider will tell you thats a recipe for coming ninth. Coming ninth this year would be an unmitigated disaster for the club.

Agree with everything you say Djevv.

 

[Ian4]

I'll put my hand up and say that I too believed in the Wallace-Miller duo producing success. How wrong I was, we have travelled all the way from 16th to 15th with a couple of 9ths and a spoon in between. This has been a very hard reality check for me personally.

What is most difficult is that as more and more of the truth about the Wallace appointment comes out; it appears that the most cynical and negative supporters have been right all along there was no plan or correct process at any stage in the last five years, it was all made up on the fly :'(.

I am now even more concerned because the more cynical and negative among us are now saying Campbell is getting the top job because he is mates with Free and March and his character is not up to the job. I say well who knows maybe he will make a good senior coach, but I have been wrong before.

For goodness sake RFC get it RIGHT this time!!

+1

I doubt he would be on any other team's shortlist personally

+1 again. loving your work Djevv. it puts WC into perspective doesnt it?

 

[craig]

richmond have now started on a tnew trail towards sucsess now that we have sacked wallnce
if we play our cards right gets some new recruits sack the hacks and richmond goes into form do you think it would be to much to ask for a premiship by 2011?

UM ...............NO.

 

[Disco08]

It's not too much to ask?