Complimentary positions

[bairdy380]

Greetings all. As have most people I've been vaugely perusing list and team structure. And as with most I am in agreeance that we finally appear to have a nucleus of a very good midfield of Foley, Tuck, Lids, Cotch, Bling and to a lesser extent Cogs (never thought I'd have to leave him as a 4th option!) Rucks still a big, big concern
My query is do we have do we have the correct foward line succession plan or structure to compliment this when we do get the centre clearances? My thoughts Jack, Morton OK...Cleve, Sgt..dunno, Brown, Richo...not future planning....my worry is we will end up with a team very similar to Cambo, Knighter and Brodders with not a whole lot forward to deliver to...
List managers and part time thinking hacks like myself...thoughts?

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Obvious ruck issues aside, I'm not sold on our midfield yet.

I think we need one more gun midfielder (inside).

We definitely need a 194+ Mobile/Fast Key Back for the monster Full Foward/Sprinters.

Forward line I think is okay and just needs one more Key Forward in there but more a inside 50 metre, champion contested/pack marking, intimidator (ideally).

I have faith in JR and Morton. Hughes I like but his workrate frustrates me and gives me doubts.

We are talking loosely of course, if we are going to go into detail there is a lot more we need for premiership glory, but these are our pressing, long term needs right now I would like to see addressed this draft in a perfect world.

 

[Baloo]

I thought this thread was going to be a comparison between Wallace's game plan and the Karma Sutra. Too often Richmond have been the ones getting it.

 

[Rosy]

...thoughts?

I read the heading and half expeted a post about the Kama Sutra. :-[

I think our backline is coming along nicely but we're yet to see if it matures to have a few of All Australians there as we've had in recent years.  

I'm rapt with the way the mid-field is developing although when they're beaten on the day we're a pretty ordinary team.  Another pre-season and added maturity should see blowout floggings become a distant memory (fingers crossed).

Our ruck department is some concern.  If Simmo can remain fit he's awesome but there really isn't anyone pressing for his crown yet.

The forward line is our weakest link for the future imo.  Richo and Browny have limited futures.  I haven't seen a game live this year so my opinion that we fall down on the half forward line could be obsolete.  I know Terry has tended to disregard the CHF position at times but we've got the ball that far and turned it over too many times for my liking.

I wouldn't have a clue about the kids we have coming on but I'd like to see a top ruckman, a strong CHF and a really good crumbing forward specialist added to the list.  Maybe we already have them waiting in the wings but if not I'd be happy to see those areas given thought at the trade and draft tables.

(Haha Baloo...JUst read your comemnts as I was posting this.  GMTA.  :hihi :hihi )

 

[bairdy380]

Yeah, perhaps the title could be better worded...or maybe it would draw a bigger crowd!...but anyway...
I think Rosy has pretty much hit the mark with CHF or a strong leading FF being a developmental concern. Jack is good and has all the traits...but not quite the intimidating go to man we need....
Perhaps our new centre plan is to go totally radical with no ruck and plan on a "sharking" midfield...in theory it is plausible...a lot of clubs are using it for around the ground and boundary situations....hmmmmmmm :blah

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Perhaps our new centre plan is to go totally radical with no ruck and plan on a "sharking" midfield...in theory it is plausible...a lot of clubs are using it for around the ground and boundary situations....hmmmmmmm :blah

Sure recipe for disaster.

More clubs have tried it and failed, ironically the bext club at it are Sydney and they have a ruck called Jolly and by recruiting Everitt types clearly they see the importance of rucks.

Bulldogs, Saints, Freo in earlier days, Carlton etc

All pretty much only tried it because of poor list management, ala having no choice. Most have since tried fixed it or patched it.

Saints are the only ones that come to my mind that steadfastedly tried to pull this off, as it was well known Grant didn't rate rucks, we all know how that ended.

Next to all the premiership sides have had great rucks and often, ruck duos, that tells you something.

 

[tigers#7]

Well the back are set imo. Maybe one small backmen short and another key defender would do nicely. Trengrove maybe?

Mids look good with our 3 guns in Cotch, Lids and Foley. Tuck, Coughlan, Tambling, Connors, Edwards, White, Jackson and Polo ain't a bad mix of 2nd tier mids either. Banner would fit in imo.

Rucks is where we lack. Simmonds, then not much. Putt looks good. Graham needs time and Patto dosnt look a first ruckmen.

In the forward line I think we are under-rated. If we can snare Trengrove I can see our forward line looking like this in 3-4 years.

HF: Morton Trengrove Gourdis
FF: Collard Hughes Riewoldt

 

[Hypoxic]

I reckon that TERRY WALLACE and his assistant coaches are complimentary to Tiger SUCCESS over the next five or so years.

 

[benny_furs]

We definitely need a 194+ Mobile/Fast Key Back for the monster Full Foward/Sprinters.

I see a few people think we need this but I'm not so sure.

For starters, how many 194cm+ players in the AFL are capable of stopping Barry Hall as well as the sprinters? I can't think of one.

But the real question is, do we need to recruit someone specifically to stop the monster forwards? Are they that much of a problem? I don't think it's such a problem that we should worry about recruiting a freak CHB for. Kel Moore can stop Barry Hall. Alex Rance has the frame to stop a Barry Hall and McGuane has the physicallity to help out.

Also, how many gorilla Barry Halls are there anyway?

3?

With Thursfield and Moore both capable of playing on the sprinters (I know Moore is as fast as Deledio according to tests), Rance and McGuane both very handy, I don't see a need for a 5th tall in defence. If Polak comes back he'll be at an age/build where he can stop the monsters if it becomes a problem in the future. We've also got the good old loose man in defence if we need it.

I don't think gorilla forwards are our death bed.

And I think they will become easier to deal with with good old fashioned bulking up with our current backs 8)

I wouldn't turn down a freak, ultra tall, strong/super fast defender if he bobbed up, but even Geelong rely on 192cm defenders primarily. We are like Geelong ;D

 

[bairdy380]

T7...I agree with the basic structure of your forward, but do still query CHF...and although a good starting 6, who else would possibly come in for injury....I reckon we are still maybe 2 players away from a soild forward structure.

 

[Streak]

I see a few people think we need this but I'm not so sure.

For starters, how many 194cm+ players in the AFL are capable of stopping Barry Hall as well as the sprinters? I can't think of one.

I agree BF, but if needed I'd suggest that of all the teams in the AFL, we have one of the most promising young players in the comp to fill this type of role (I emphasize if needed ) in Rance.

I think our backline needs a young David Wirrapanda. We get murdered by quality small forwards, not monsters.