" Confidence Players "

[jayfox]

Not sure if it was confidence or just lazyness but D Jarman use to amaze me at how quieter days he would have when he was having an off day,less then 5 touches was not uncommon

Cant you give 'em a bit of your confidence ?

If they could just love themselves like I love them :grouphug Wheres Jayfox :hihi

Geez, dont encourage Billy Graham to come on.

I'm here Bedspread (remember, I see all and hear all - just joking ;D) but don't worry I won't get all spiritual on you, I'll save that for the Christianity thread. Billy Graham though huh? That's probably the nicest (only nice) thing you've ever said to me! But if I am Billy Graham then you are David Koresh! :hihi

 

[benny_furs]

When you say "confidence players" M. Richardson is the first player that springs to mind.

Darren Gaspar is a big one that not many people mention too. When he is getting beating his attitude is terrible and he "gives up". We always talk of how the team used to "give up" when losing and this bloke is one of those who is the first to drop his head.

 

[Anduril]

Darren Gaspar is a big one that not many people mention too. When he is getting beating his attitude is terrible and he "gives up". We always talk of how the team used to "give up" when losing and this bloke is one of those who is the first to drop his head.

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[Scoop]

When you say "confidence players" M. Richardson is the first player that springs to mind.

Darren Gaspar is a big one that not many people mention too. When he is getting beating his attitude is terrible and he "gives up". We always talk of how the team used to "give up" when losing and this bloke is one of those who is the first to drop his head.

agree, his body language is shocking. He looks beat before the contest. Always has, even when he was going well. I remember in Brent Hartigan's first year, we were getting flooged and he was patting Gas on the back trying to lift his sagging sprits.

Like Rosy said, our leadership group needs to take control more, when things are going bad stand up and make sure you win the very next contest.

 

[U2Tigers]

When you say "confidence players" M. Richardson is the first player that springs to mind.

Darren Gaspar is a big one that not many people mention too. When he is getting beating his attitude is terrible and he "gives up". We always talk of how the team used to "give up" when losing and this bloke is one of those who is the first to drop his head.

I don't just mean within one game though.

Over a longer period. Tivva is the perfect example of someone who looks second rate when confidence is low.

His confidence was higgh last year and he played very well. ( I don't care what his knockers thought of last year - he was good compared to a lot of others)

 

[The_General]

Richo is missing from that list.

If he kicks his first shot at goal out of bounds or hits a post etc, he's gonna be bad all day.

If he slots one from the boundary line 50 out, he reckons he's gonna nail them from anywhere.

Never stops trying though General!

Nope, if only his confidence levels were as big as his heart, he'd have been a superstar, instead of just a club champion.

 

[Harro12]

Don't think attitude is Tivs problem, I reckon he tries just as hard as anyone. Nah, the problem is his decision making.

 

[Skills]

Is it a myth.

Or is it as I think, The RFC has its fair share of them.

The ones that really stick out are

1. Tivendale
2.Pettifer
3. Schulz
4. Krakouer
5. Tambling
6. Hyde

Bono, if you are attributing the form slump and inconsistencies of players such as Greg Tivendale and Andrew Krakouer towards confidence, then this sounds ridiculous and ludicrous. Your suggestions sound like nothing more than a frustrated supporter, waiting to get extraordinary efforts from two footballers, who have been around in the business long enough - It's not confdence that has held these players back, it's a lack of ability.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

Satanta for Carlton, has received alot of patting on the back & praise from his team mates thoughout the Escort Cup. May have the potential of running away from home if the going gets tough.

 

[taraba]

Richo is missing from that list.

If he kicks his first shot at goal out of bounds or hits a post etc, he's gonna be bad all day.

If he slots one from the boundary line 50 out, he reckons he's gonna nail them from anywhere.

Never stops trying though General!

Nope, if only his confidence levels were as big as his heart, he'd have been a superstar, instead of just a club champion.

Poor Richo's overcome many obstacles in his career including some shocking injuries but he was never able to overcome some of the very average footballers that he played with. That's been his biggest downfall regarding becoming a genuine competition superstar. You need to play well in finals to really become great and he's never had much opportunity.

 

[The_General]

I disagree with needing to play finals. Plugger didn't play a huge amount of finals, but is arguably the greatest ever full forward.

Good players have the ability to perform above the normal expectations.
Great players can win matches by themselves, and do so regularly.
Champions of the league, not only lift themselves, but also those around them, to higher levels.

In basketball, it was one of the criticisms put to Michael Jordan by the coach that ended up taking the Bulls to 6 NBA championships (Phil Jackson). He told Jordan he was a great player, but that he wouldn't be considered with the best because he didn't make his teammates better. Jordan took it upon himself to do that, because it was the one thing that seperated him from players like Bird and Magic Johnson.

For much of Richo's career, he was petulant, spoilt, and not a great teammate. He's come a huge way in recent years to changing this and set himself out as a leader. Unfortunately for Richo, I think when he retires, he'll be remembered by the football world more for doing the petulant dummy spits, the eratic kicking for goal and the dropped marks, than for his run all day exploits.

On his day, he's a great player. But he is too much of a confidence player, to be able to lift the average performing teammates to the extreme levels of their performance chart, the way a Wayne Carey could. Think, it wouldn't be too inspiring to be kicking it to a forward, who's either going to abuse you, give up chasing an opponent or drop his head, when things don't go his way.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Unfortunately for Richo, I think when he retires, he'll be remembered by the football world more for doing the petulant dummy spits, the eratic kicking for goal and the dropped marks, than for his run all day exploits.

I totally disagree with that General, u mention dropped marks he is the NO 1 contested mark player in the league and has been for many many years and he has taken more marks over all than any other player in the last 13 years including Carey, Lloyd and Grant to name a few.

Yeah he has missed a few easy ones but u should mention the goals he has kicked out of nowhere, so it does balance out even though some years ago the easy misses were highlighted more so. His goal kicking accuracy has improved over the years actually i have noticed his technique has changed he just doesn’t rush his kicking action as much nowadays, similar to Williams of the hawks...when i mean similar i mean Williams kicking action is in a relaxed mode leading up to kicking the ball not rushed.

General ill agree with the dummy spits in years gone by but we are talking 4 or 5 years ago when i last saw him do that, i think it was his 150th and in the goal square with Rodan.

But ill tell u now general when he does retire and his stats are read out he will be remembered as a champion with perhaps 300 games to his tally (barring injury) 800-900 goals, etc. When that day comes perhaps in the next 3 or 4 years i honestly don't think people will be thinking oh remember that dummy spit 8 or 9 years ago or that missed goal, they will appreciate a true champion of our great game and i for one will perhaps shed a tear as i was there in 93' when he played his first game.

Ive always defined a champion or a super star as some one who is a match winner, a true match winner who can a win a game off his own boot which Richo definitely is and also someone who continually beats his opponents and he has done that more times than i can remember.

 

[stripes17]

Well said clever tiger. Richo has taken a bit longer mature. I think TW has helped him in this regard, but he is definitely a match winner and an excitement machine. I will be very sad the day that he hangs up his boots.